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Oils4AsphaultOnly said:GRA said:Oils4AsphaultOnly said:Do you actually believe that "self-charging electric vehicle" marketing non-sense? If you're incapable of thinking logically for yourself, rather relying on reports and someone else's words, then go away. You're insulting everyone else who actually put thought into their opinions.
I believe that an Electric Vehicle, by definition, is propelled partly or solely by an electric motor. How that motor is supplied with electricity determines the type of EV it is. If that's too much logical thinking for you, perhaps you should take your own advice. I put thought into my opinions, I assume you do the same, so act like an adult and stop the personal insults.
Your definition of "Electric Vehicle" doesn't move the needle on reducing carbon emissions, nor is it one that even Toyota adopts. They skirted around the issue by saying that their hybrids were "electrified". The fact that you would contort the definition beyond what Toyota would even claim, just to support your baseless claim (about Toyota knowing a thing-or-two, because they sold more EVs than anyone else) shows how defensive and unyielding you had become. You can't just make up your own set of "facts" to argue against basic physics. That's what children do when they were little.
I know I have insulted you in the past, but after re-reading my previous post, this time I had NOT. It was a statement of fact that was merely too embarrassing for you to accept, so you took it as an insult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle
An electric vehicle (EV)[note 1] is an automotive vehicle that uses one or more electric motors for propulsion. It can be powered by a collector system, with electricity from extravehicular sources, or it can be powered autonomously by a battery (sometimes charged by solar panels, or by converting fuel to electricity using fuel cells or a generator).[1] EVs include, but are not limited to, road and rail vehicles, surface and underwater vessels, electric aircraft and electric spacecraft. . . .
Electricity sources
There are many ways to generate electricity, of varying costs, efficiency and ecological desirability.
Connection to generator plants
Direct connection to generation plants as is common among electric trains, trams, trolleybuses, and trolleytrucks (See also: overhead lines, third rail and conduit current collection)
Online electric vehicle collects power from electric power strips buried under the road surface through electromagnetic induction
Onboard generators and hybrid EVs
Generated on-board using a diesel engine: diesel–electric locomotive and diesel–electric multiple unit (DEMU)
Generated on-board using a fuel cell: fuel cell vehicle
Generated on-board using nuclear energy: nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers
Renewable sources such as solar power: solar vehicle
It is also possible to have hybrid EVs that derive electricity from multiple sources, such as:
On-board rechargeable electricity storage system (RESS) and a direct continuous connection to land-based generation plants for purposes of on-highway recharging with unrestricted highway range[31]
On-board rechargeable electricity storage system and a fueled propulsion power source (internal combustion engine): plug-in hybrid
For especially large EVs, such as submarines, the chemical energy of the diesel–electric can be replaced by a nuclear reactor. The nuclear reactor usually provides heat, which drives a steam turbine, which drives a generator, which is then fed to the propulsion. See Nuclear marine propulsion.
A few experimental vehicles, such as some cars and a handful of aircraft use solar panels for electricity. . . .
And so on. Your definition excludes numerous types of vehicles that are unquestionably electric, because the one common factor all EVs (other than Maglevs; if you want to argue they aren't EVs, be my guest) share is that, as the entry states at the beginning, they use "one or more electric motors for propulsion", to which I'd add "partly or solely" to clear up any possible doubt that the various types of hybrids also qualify.
Your definition of EV chooses to ignore most of the prefix letters that distinguish one type of EV from another, insisting that only one or two such prefixes, which you favor, qualify. Oh, and you can also admit that Toyota has built and sold more EVs than anyone else, primarily of the H(ybrid)EV subtype, but also including much smaller numbers of B-, PH- and FC- E(lectric) V(ehicle) subtypes. While you're doing that, I'll be spending some time tomorrow riding on an electric train which, presumably because it doesn't store electric energy on board but receives it continuously as needed via a third rail from an off-board generation source, you also don't consider an EV.