GRA
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Tesla has said they're open to licensing the chargers and connectors to other manufacturers, so other cars may well wind up using them. At the rate that Tesla is installing Superchargers, they've either already or will soon have a greater # installed (but not in as many locations, as they don't need as many with their range).EVerlasting said:Oh thank you Tesla for screwing the entire EV community by using plugs that don't fit any other EV except Tesla. Enjoy your exclusive supercharger network for the occasional visit by millionaire owner.GRA said:Who knows? There were apparently 24 in the demonstration phase. Nissan thinks it's best to keep it all a big _seekrut_ from their customers, the people who'd use them and would like to offer comments as to the best and worst places to put them. Nissan (actually OE IIRR) made it clear months ago, in this thread or another, that they weren't going to announce where they were thinking about putting the chargers, i.e. suggestions not wanted. That way they have plausible deniability when things don't go as quickly as planned, or a dealer refuses to install a charger at all. Just another example of Nissan's general attitude to customer communication and input. Compare with Tesla and decide which you prefer.KJD said:Now that Nissan is about 7 months into this project, how many of these 500 stations are up and running ?
As a potential user I don't care which standard is ultimately agreed upon, or if we wind up with a couple. All I care about is being able to connect and get electricity anywhere I need to, and I'll leave the details to the engineers. OTOH, as someone who has an eye for design and ergonomics, I find the need to have two separate charge receptacles for the same car to be an unnecessary complication, and I expect it's probably more costly as well as taking up extra real estate. CCS looks like a kludge and is big and ugly (as is CHAdeMo), but I expect it to work okay. If I were emperor and could dictate which standard to use in North America, I'd go for Tesla, as it's small and elegant, and Tesla has been showing people how fast you can build a good network if you're committed to it. For Europe I like the Type 2 Menneke's, but it's too power limited for BEVs with larger batteries like the S.