OrientExpress
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It's more likely that it's the same ATM that the e-NV2000 has always had. That is some fans inside the pack.
OrientExpress said:It's more likely that it's the same ATM that the e-NV2000 has always had. That is some fans inside the pack.
OrientExpress said:It's more likely that it's the same ATM that the e-NV2000 has always had. That is some fans inside the pack.
arnis said:E-NV200 has a refrigerant based evaporator with fans. It's good enough for daily fast charging.
60kWh Leaf could actually use that with hardly any modifications to the vehicle body.
They can take a Tesla apart and learn how it is done.Evoforce said:arnis said:E-NV200 has a refrigerant based evaporator with fans. It's good enough for daily fast charging.
60kWh Leaf could actually use that with hardly any modifications to the vehicle body.
What is interesting, is that in my discussions with Nissan Corporate Executives, they didn't want to do that with their batteries because of condensation concerns within the battery pack.
SageBrush said:They can take a Tesla apart and learn how it is done.Evoforce said:arnis said:E-NV200 has a refrigerant based evaporator with fans. It's good enough for daily fast charging.
60kWh Leaf could actually use that with hardly any modifications to the vehicle body.
What is interesting, is that in my discussions with Nissan Corporate Executives, they didn't want to do that with their batteries because of condensation concerns within the battery pack.
One should hope so, and that was my point: Nissan provided a BS excuse.Evoforce said:SageBrush said:They can take a Tesla apart and learn how it is done.Evoforce said:What is interesting, is that in my discussions with Nissan Corporate Executives, they didn't want to do that with their batteries because of condensation concerns within the battery pack.
Probably already have!
Evoforce said:arnis said:E-NV200 has a refrigerant based evaporator with fans. It's good enough for daily fast charging.
60kWh Leaf could actually use that with hardly any modifications to the vehicle body.
What is interesting, is that in my discussions with Nissan Corporate Executives, they didn't want to do that with their batteries because of condensation concerns within the battery pack.
Joe6pack said:I like how you all continue to come up with expensive solutions to a problem that Nissan doesn't seem to feel they have.
They do not care about fast charging in the 2018 LEAF. If you do, this isn't the car for you.
I can tell you they know this is a huge issue but it's marketing's job to play it down. Have you ever talked to any of their engineers from Japan? I have spoken to several of them personally including the lead for the entire project. Do you really think Nissan thinks this is not a huge issue? Perhaps not in 2011 but they are not stupid or in denial. When they have TMS expect them to make that very clear with new marketing and PR.
EVDRIVER said:Joe6pack said:I like how you all continue to come up with expensive solutions to a problem that Nissan doesn't seem to feel they have.
They do not care about fast charging in the 2018 LEAF. If you do, this isn't the car for you.
I can tell you they know this is a huge issue but it's marketing's job to play it down. Have you ever talked to any of their engineers from Japan? I have spoken to several of them personally including the lead for the entire project. Do you really think Nissan thinks this is not a huge issue? Perhaps not in 2011 but they are not stupid or in denial. When they have TMS expect them to make that very clear with new marketing and PR.
Your reasoning is circular. You may as well say "Nissan fitted the '18 LEAF with a crap battery so they must LOVE crap batteries."Joe6pack said:I like how you all continue to come up with expensive solutions to a problem that Nissan doesn't seem to feel they have.
tcherniaev said:I can tell you they know this is a huge issue but it's marketing's job to play it down. Have you ever talked to any of their engineers from Japan? I have spoken to several of them personally including the lead for the entire project. Do you really think Nissan thinks this is not a huge issue? Perhaps not in 2011 but they are not stupid or in denial. When they have TMS expect them to make that very clear with new marketing and PR.
I just got off the phone with 877-664-2738 and I can tell you that at least they do not care AT ALL that the charge rates suck. They argue that it is normal and that Nissan does not promise any specific charge rate. I asked them why 2016 leaf pulls more power that 2018, and they could care less. Just like they did not care about 2011 leaf battery degradation until lawsuit was filed.
SageBrush said:Your reasoning is circular. You may as well say "Nissan fitted the '18 LEAF with a crap battery so they must LOVE crap batteries."Joe6pack said:I like how you all continue to come up with expensive solutions to a problem that Nissan doesn't seem to feel they have.
tcherniaev said:I just got off the phone with 877-664-2738 and I can tell you that at least they do not care AT ALL that the charge rates suck. They argue that it is normal and that Nissan does not promise any specific charge rate. I asked them why 2016 leaf pulls more power that 2018, and they could care less. Just like they did not care about 2011 leaf battery degradation until lawsuit was filed.
LeftieBiker said:OTOH, I put in a request that did supposedly get to Nissan Corporate. I asked about special ordering an SL with cloth seats. The response was that the SL was their 'top of the line car' and that if I wanted cloth seats I should order a loaded SV. This after I noted that Around View now comes only with the SL. They really don't care what customers think, or want, as long as we buy the cars.
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