JPWhite
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LTLFTcomposite said:Me thinks they don't have this idea fully cooked and more changes are coming.
Me agrees
LTLFTcomposite said:Me thinks they don't have this idea fully cooked and more changes are coming.
JPWhite said:LTLFTcomposite said:Me thinks they don't have this idea fully cooked and more changes are coming.
Me agrees
I see on the Nissan UK website that it lists lease payments to rent the battery by yearly mileage and term, 12, 24, or 36 month. So it sounds like it isn't forever, its 1, 2, or 3yr. What happens when that time is up?Weckel said:In Europe there isn't an end of lease contract, it's forever. The idea of this was from Nissan's partner Renault, they sell all his EV with batterie renting. At the beginning was very exciting for the people because they thought you can buy a EV cheaper, pay for some years until came a new cheapers and with more range generation of batteries and then buy one of this. But Renault (and now Nissan too) say NO, leasing it's forever.
klapauzius said:Weckel said:In Europe there isn't an end of lease contract, it's forever. The idea of this was from Nissan's partner Renault, they sell all his EV with batterie renting. At the beginning was very exciting for the people because they thought you can buy a EV cheaper, pay for some years until came a new cheapers and with more range generation of batteries and then buy one of this. But Renault (and now Nissan too) say NO, leasing it's forever.
So, if you want to sell the car, you have to find someone willing to pick up the 'eternal' rent?
What if you don't find a buyer and you can or want not to pay the rent...do they come to take the battery away then?
dm33 said:I see on the Nissan UK website that it lists lease payments to rent the battery by yearly mileage and term, 12, 24, or 36 month. So it sounds like it isn't forever, its 1, 2, or 3yr. What happens when that time is up?Weckel said:In Europe there isn't an end of lease contract, it's forever. The idea of this was from Nissan's partner Renault, they sell all his EV with batterie renting. At the beginning was very exciting for the people because they thought you can buy a EV cheaper, pay for some years until came a new cheapers and with more range generation of batteries and then buy one of this. But Renault (and now Nissan too) say NO, leasing it's forever.
Sure but why not give us a direct price on the 40 :roll:LTLFTcomposite said:Something nobody has talked about is the "latest technology" angle... if they want to put in a 40kwh pack is the hundred a month deal more attractive?
Patience is a virtue of which I have none.BBrockman said:Hi everyone:
Thanks to Chelsea for jumping in and sharing some additional details or clarification.
We have some work to do to more clearly explain the program on some levels. As a couple folks suggested, a simpler Q&A seems to be in order to clarify the basic topics that may have been vague in our presentation. I'll take that homework back, and try to use this thread as a starting point.
I can tell this topic is of very high importance to members of the forum. Thanks for your patience.
Brian
klapauzius said:JPWhite said:LTLFTcomposite said:Me thinks they don't have this idea fully cooked and more changes are coming.
Me agrees
Lets hope for the best...If it is like other announcements about numbers from Nissan, then what will happen is that $100 per month will turn into $140 per month...
Could be. Look what happened w/Microsoft's reversal on sharing games, used games, console having to check in via the Internet every 24 hours, etc. w/the upcoming Xbox One, after all the very negative publicity and Sony taking potshots at them.Stoaty said:Perhaps this replacement program is more of a trial balloon than a fait accompli. Maybe some adjustments can be made to deal with the "pain points".
evnow said:Put $x in a bank account and arrange auto payment of interest & some principle every month.thankyouOB said:it is the grift, EV. i want freedom from contracts not another monthly bill to go with the phone, the cable,the credit cards for gasoline, the insurance, the ip, the healthcare, the gas co, the mortgage, and on and on.
Really is it so difficult to wrap your head around this idea ?
BTW, this is only till you want to keep the car - not exactly perpetuity.
Also, let me ask you this. Let us say Nissan says the battery costs $10k. What are you going to do with that information ?
There is a variant of this described here:cwerdna said:Or, it could be this: I recall in a social psychology class I took AGES ago in college some sort of tactics to make people think something is more acceptable. I don't recall the term for it. Maybe someone w/a psych degree can chime in?
Stoaty said:There is a variant of this described here:cwerdna said:Or, it could be this: I recall in a social psychology class I took AGES ago in college some sort of tactics to make people think something is more acceptable. I don't recall the term for it. Maybe someone w/a psych degree can chime in?
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"Asking a weird question before you make your real request gets you better results"
Using that strategy, I have two questions for Nissan:
1) How long does it take a grasshopper to rip the seams out of a dill pickle?
2) What is the full cash price of a replacement battery pack?
Oh well, thought it was worth a try.
ITestStuff said:I think the model might make sense for future purchases/leases, though there is a big open question of what that does to the tax credit.
We've waited long enough. Get your act together. Now.BBrockman said:I can tell this topic is of very high importance to members of the forum. Thanks for your patience
you are thinking about a Q&A now?BBrockman said:Hi everyone:
Thanks to Chelsea for jumping in and sharing some additional details or clarification.
We have some work to do to more clearly explain the program on some levels. As a couple folks suggested, a simpler Q&A seems to be in order to clarify the basic topics that may have been vague in our presentation. I'll take that homework back, and try to use this thread as a starting point.
I can tell this topic is of very high importance to members of the forum. Thanks for your patience.
Brian
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