ishiyakazuo
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Google your VIN number. Sometimes they put the VIN up when it gets posted to Cars.com or similar, and that may be archived somewhere.
ishiyakazuo said:Google your VIN number. Sometimes they put the VIN up when it gets posted to Cars.com or similar, and that may be archived somewhere.
ishiyakazuo said:Nice! Now archive that page off as printed PDF and save all of the individual images to your HDD if possible, in case there's something beyond the dash in the photos that makes it evident that it is indeed your car.
Exactly what I was thinking. Once that second bar drops, you've got 'em.Slow1 said:Great progress! That likely also shows the odometer I assume - and when title was transferred that should have been recorded as well. While not identical, they should be close enough to help establish that their picture was in fact of your car at that ODO reading.
How many bars is your car showing now? I'm sure you mentioned it somewhere in the thread... but in any case, as soon as it is down 2 bars you can ask "how does a car lose 2 capacity bars in X Months with only Y miles driven on it" - that should make your case right there.
Slow1 said:Great progress! That likely also shows the odometer I assume - and when title was transferred that should have been recorded as well. While not identical, they should be close enough to help establish that their picture was in fact of your car at that ODO reading.
How many bars is your car showing now? I'm sure you mentioned it somewhere in the thread... but in any case, as soon as it is down 2 bars you can ask "how does a car lose 2 capacity bars in X Months with only Y miles driven on it" - that should make your case right there.
Yeah, that would be enough right there probably ("NEW BATTERY!" + 2500 miles to 1st bar drop). I'm reasonably sure they wouldn't say that in an ad though. Dealers are smarter than that. They'd rather put a picture of it with 12 bars and let your mind make the connection, and maybe verbalize it but not put it in writing.Slow1 said:Well, you need that 2nd bar drop to really make a case otherwise the argument will be made that "going from 12 to 11 has to happen some time, you just happened to be close to 11 when you got it". Showing how fast that 11 to 10 bar drop happens... that should be convincing.
Edit to add - did those web pages you found have anything indicating new battery written on them anywhere? That would be an awesome stroke of luck...
ishiyakazuo said:On the other hand, if the OP posts their VIN and this ends up in court, it could be a way to identify them and use things said in this thread (or elsewhere) against them. If the battery has really degraded significantly, it'll drop that second bar reasonably soon. Two bars in a short period of time is abnormal degradation, and the case is made without doing anything risky.
Fair enough... hard to search inside the images for the VINkuri said:ishiyakazuo said:On the other hand, if the OP posts their VIN and this ends up in court, it could be a way to identify them and use things said in this thread (or elsewhere) against them. If the battery has really degraded significantly, it'll drop that second bar reasonably soon. Two bars in a short period of time is abnormal degradation, and the case is made without doing anything risky.
As a point of note, my VIN is already in all of the LeafSpy screenshots I've posted, so if they *really* wanted to track me down, they could. That's not sufficient evidence to claim I'm badmouthing *them* though, as I've never once mentioned their name and have very clearly gone out of my way to avoid doing so.
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