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Correct, after 3 years it becomes a basic EVSE. You can pay extra for the monitoring services they will be providing for free while your part of the study.
Congrats, it's a free EVSE!
Congrats, it's a free EVSE!
smkettner said:I would ask about a subpanel.Boomer23 said:This also means that I have no choice but to upgrade my main panel, which is currently at capacity of 20 breakers, to connect an EVSE circuit.
I know I said subpanel and that may well be the low cost method. Honestly if it was my house I would go with a new 200 amp panel that had plenty of slots and some room to expand.Boomer23 said:Advice please: I now have a revised quote from AV to add a "load center" or sub panel to their scope of work to resolve the issue of the physically maxed-out panel.
Note that I currently have a 100 Amp main panel with solar pv, a total of one 40 amp breaker, two 30 amp breakers for the solar, and a total of 15ea 20 amp breakers, making up a total of 18 breakers and 20 poles. The panel is rated at 20 poles max. Most of the breakers are already half-height. The only high amp appliances are the oven and cooktop. The 40 amp breaker is for the oven, and a full size 20 amp breaker is for the cooktop. There is no A/C, no spa, no electric dryer or water heater. Leaf charging will be done primarily from midnight to 5 am, when no cooking will be done.
Here's the proposal to add the EVSE. "Install (1) new 60 amp 4 circuit load center. Install 50 amp 240 volt breaker in existing panel. Install 40 amp 240 volt breaker in new sub panel and relocate (2) 20 amp circuits from main panel into sub panel."
For my electrical brain trust friends, does this look do-able and would you do it? Or would you just upgrade your main panel to 200 Amps at a cost of about $2,000 over and above the AV quote? Note that I'd like to add something like a TED metering device in the near future to track my solar pv production and my power usage.
EVDRIVER said:I am starting this thread as a place to post any info on EVSE installation costs, parts, etc. This will be a good way to get ideas of what people are being charged and what info is being communicated.
Location: Austin, TX 78750
Contractor: AeroVironment
Sub-contractor: Wright 1 Electric, Burleson, TX
Installation Permit and Processing 94.50
Custom Installation 1,607.90
Charging Dock, Wall Mount 25' Cable 721.12
Shipping and Delivery 49.95
Total(before tax) 2,473.47
Sales Tax 192.93
Total US 2,666.40
Gonewild said:Wow sure glad I got mine for free.
Same here. I also had a previous EV 40A hookup, my quote came in with identical "quote details" as yours, my "Custom Installation" fee was $664 though. I also called Nissan, and complained that AV had not provided the minimum level contractor details about the time and materials for the job. AV agreed to let me buy the unit and install myself; "cash and carry" option, but wouldn't justify their quote. Since then, I've qualified for the EVProject, but I wouldn't have let AV do the install (60 mins of labor?) at that price under any circumstances.jfy said:...After I got the quote below, I called Nissan customer service and was forwarded to AV. I requested a breakdown of the hourly rate for the electrician and estimated job duration but AV declined to provide the details. ...
jfy said:I previously leased a Toyota RAV4 EV so have an existing 40 Amp 240 Volt circuit in the garage and a TOU meter. The AV subcontractor that did the my home assessment indicated that my installation cost should be lowest of all the assessments that he has done to date. But he didn't know how much it would be because he doesn't generate the actual quotes. He sends AV the home assessment form and photos. After I got the quote below, I called Nissan customer service and was forwarded to AV. I requested a breakdown of the hourly rate for the electrician and estimated job duration but AV declined to provide the details.
Installation Permit and Processing $0.01
Custom Installation $604.50
Charging Dock, Wall Mount 15' Cable $721.12
Shipping and Delivery $49.95
Total(before tax) $ 1,375.58
Sales Tax $ 63.10
Total US $ 1,438.68
Your quote details
Charging Dock will be installed to customer location with existing 40 Ampere 240 Volt circuit. Charging Dock will
be fully tested and certified with proprietary service tool. Customer will be trained on operation and
troubleshooting. This quote assumes that the existing branch circuit is installed correctly and has been permitted.
Expires on 12/31/2010
Thank you for your inquiry regarding Coulomb Technologies EV chargers. While Coulomb offers units for both commercial and home locations, including multi-family dwellings, we are currently offering a special deal for the CT500 charger for the home. Please see the details of this special offer below. If you are interested in commercial chargers for public or workplace chargers, please let us know and we can get the information to you on Coulomb’s CT2000 and CT2100 series chargers.
CT500 Special Offer for Home Installation:
CT 500 unit only (excluding sales tax)$1850
Shipping for charger $ 50
Site Visit—deducted from installation if use CFCI$ 100
Standard Installation—approximately 35 feet of conduit, mounted on the exterior of the home, no trenching, coring or boring, one penetration from exterior to garage, sign quote at the time of site visit. Excludes permits. $ 900 (approx.)
Permits (if pulled by installer)$ 200 (approx.)
Installation if you have had an EV charger and already have a 40 amp circuit (includes removal of existing charger if necessary) $ 450
We have units in stock for immediate delivery.
Other items to consider:
1. If you are buying the Nissan Leaf and the faster charging option on the Nissan Leaf, I believe the CT 500 will charge your car twice as fast, as it is a 7.2kW charger.
2. You can choose to install the unit yourself or have your own electrician install it, however, we will ask you to sign something indicating that you will follow electrical codes and local procedures for installation. If the unit is not properly installed or is tampered with, the one year parts and labor warranty will be void.
3. If purchased by December 31, 2010, the unit comes with two years free network software license; after two years you may need to pay a license fee of $140 per year. We are currently discussing this with the manufacturer.
Clean Fuel Connection (CFCI) has been in the electric vehicle infrastructure business since 1999 and the President has 18 years prior experience with a major investor-owned utility. CFCI has sold and installed approximately 8,000 chargers from multiple manufacturers. We are currently the exclusive California distributor of Coulomb ChargePoint charging units. Over the past two years, we worked with BMW to install the infrastructure for the MINI E program.
If you are interested in purchasing the charger and/or installation, please let us know where you live and we will have one of our dealers contact you immediately.
Thanks,
George
George P. Bent
Project Manager
Clean Fuel Connection
(626) 445-1445
[email protected]
Tesla said:I received the following email from Coulomb. The representative seems to think the CT500 will charge the Leaf faster than a 3.3Kw EVSE (see "Other items to consider" point #1 below). Is he misinformed?
EVDRIVER said:I am starting this thread as a place to post any info on EVSE installation costs, parts, etc. This will be a good way to get ideas of what people are being charged and what info is being communicated.
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