edatoakrun
Well-known member
Well, it's been a week since model 3 "sales" started, and no sign of the required fuel economy disclosure.
So, either TSLA never affixed the “conditional fuel economy label(s)” to the 30 model 3s it has claimed to have sold, or the buyers have been suitably intimidated to prevent disclosure.
So lets guess!
And what the hell, why not do the same for the LEAF Gen two.
For the Tesla 3, I suggest you post your guess for the RWD large battery model-the first version which is supposed to be available to customers, sometime by late fall (?).
For the LEAF Gen two, post your guess for base pack, FWD, which is expected to be the first model available (if any other are planned).
Look here for relevant comparisons and the format our brave bureaucrats have decided on, MPGe, in City and Highway cycles.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38558&id=38187&id=38431&id=38428
My guesses...and that is exactly what they are, since I make no claims of inside sources or information:
Edatoakrun, 8/3/17 Tesla 3 (310 m pack) 125 MPGe City 120 MPGe Highway
Edatoakrun, 8/3/17 LEAF Gen two (base) 140 MPGe City 120 MPGe Highway
If you want to place your guesses, please add them, copy and repost all previous guesses in separate columns in the format above, along with your other (on-topic, PLEASE!) comments.
Background, from the Tesla 3 thread:
So, either TSLA never affixed the “conditional fuel economy label(s)” to the 30 model 3s it has claimed to have sold, or the buyers have been suitably intimidated to prevent disclosure.
So lets guess!
And what the hell, why not do the same for the LEAF Gen two.
For the Tesla 3, I suggest you post your guess for the RWD large battery model-the first version which is supposed to be available to customers, sometime by late fall (?).
For the LEAF Gen two, post your guess for base pack, FWD, which is expected to be the first model available (if any other are planned).
Look here for relevant comparisons and the format our brave bureaucrats have decided on, MPGe, in City and Highway cycles.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38558&id=38187&id=38431&id=38428
My guesses...and that is exactly what they are, since I make no claims of inside sources or information:
Edatoakrun, 8/3/17 Tesla 3 (310 m pack) 125 MPGe City 120 MPGe Highway
Edatoakrun, 8/3/17 LEAF Gen two (base) 140 MPGe City 120 MPGe Highway
If you want to place your guesses, please add them, copy and repost all previous guesses in separate columns in the format above, along with your other (on-topic, PLEASE!) comments.
Background, from the Tesla 3 thread:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18016&start=860...Wonder if TSLA will reveal data from the “conditional fuel economy label” before or by tomorrow night?
And if so, will it be only for the optional-large-battery RWD versions it has said will be "delivered" tomorrow night, or show data for the entire model 3 range?
https://www.torquenews.com/1083/teslas-official-model-3-epa-data-will-be-one-month-late...Tesla's Official Model 3 EPA Efficiency Data Will Be One Month Late
Tesla will launch its Model 3 on Friday, July 28th without official EPA energy efficiency data.
Like many aspects of Telsa's vehicle launches, the energy efficiency data is an afterthought to be handled when time permits, rather before the cars start to be sold to private owners.
No Official Window Sticker For Model 3
In the U.S., every car sold must have a Monroney sticker affixed to its side window by law. The is sticker has evolved over the years, but now contains primarily fuel economy information (in the largest font on the sticker), energy (or fuel) costs in the second largest font size, crash test data from NHTSA, manufacturing location and parts origin by percentage, and, of course, the individual vehicle's MSRP and standard and optional content in the smallest font. Tesla will be providing vehicles to consumers without official data...
We asked the folks at http://www.fueleconomy.gov if the information was available and discovered it was not. Our inquiry was timely. Just yesterday, July 26th, 2017, http://www.fueleconomy.gov received an e-mail from the EPA informing the group that the data would be a month late and that official sales of the Model 3 would start on July 28th (not what you may have otherwise heard reported). Instead of an official Monroney sticker, the EPA will allow Tesla to ship a limited number of vehicles (possibly less than 100 in total) with “conditional fuel economy label”. http://WWW.fueleconomy.gov explained to us that, "This provision in EPA regulations allows manufacturers to introduce a model based on manufacturer’s test data, while the test vehicle is being confirmatory tested at EPA." The group says that EPA won't be sending any information to http://www.fueleconomy.gov until the data is finalized, which is estimated to take another month...