DaveinOlyWA
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Lasareath said:WOW!!! - Can it really be True?!!!
yes, but not in the way you are likely thinking
Lasareath said:WOW!!! - Can it really be True?!!!
It sure looks like it, yeah... strange.DaveinOlyWA said:ishiyakazuo said:Interesting. Wonder what exactly they're showing 32 seconds in...
carbon fiber if we are unlucky
ishiyakazuo said:It sure looks like it, yeah... strange.DaveinOlyWA said:ishiyakazuo said:Interesting. Wonder what exactly they're showing 32 seconds in...
carbon fiber if we are unlucky
DaveinOlyWA said:i say unlucky because its likely to push the car out of my (and many other's) financial reach. This would be a mistake.
I can only hope that Nissan recognizes the success of the S trim and continues to strive for better products in that arena
Lasareath said:Dave,
I think they will have an S trim still, They know not everybody wants or can afford a LEAF thats priced like an Infiniti
DaveinOlyWA said:i say unlucky because its likely to push the car out of my (and many other's) financial reach. This would be a mistake.
I can only hope that Nissan recognizes the success of the S trim and continues to strive for better products in that arena
Yogi62 said:At $350-$500 a KW (my price, no source), that would be another $10K to $15K. Cheaper than getting a Tesla.... Cheaper than a Chevy? We'll see.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20150629/OEM06/306299980/leaf-to-get-a-big-boost-in-driving-rangeYOKOHAMA, Japan -- Nissan Motor Co., fighting falling sales of its Leaf electric vehicle, plans a midcycle update as early as August that aims to deliver a big increase in the Leaf's driving range, a person familiar with the project said.
The improvements will come from squeezing more energy into the Leaf's lithium ion battery. The new battery will be the same size as the current 24-kilowatt-hour power pack but deliver 30 kwh, the source said.
CEO Carlos Ghosn outlined future EV steps at the company's annual shareholders meeting Tuesday, June 23. Nissan is developing a lighter, thinner, cheaper battery to enable driving ranges comparable with gasoline vehicles in the "near future," he said...
Next to him on stage, Nissan displayed a Leaf equipped with a prototype next-generation electric drivetrain. That technology, which is under development and being tested, achieves a range of more than 500 kilometers (310 miles), the source said.
Ghosn said the goal of the next-generation battery is to eliminate range anxiety by providing enough cushion for people to complete their daily drive and "return home with ample charge."
A video simulation showed the car charging up to a range of more than 310 miles and ending the day with a drivable range of 160 miles still in reserve.
Yet even before that next-generation battery hits the market, Nissan plans an interim upgrade for its flagship green car. "We will not wait for its completion to move forward," Ghosn said.
The Leaf's new 30 kwh battery may arrive as early as August. The battery should achieve an EPA-rated range of about 125 miles on a full charge, the source said. That compares with an EPA-rated range of 84 miles for the current battery.
The real-world range of the new battery, however, is expected to be closer to 105 to 110 miles, the source said. ...
http://www.autonews.com/article/20150629/OEM06/306299980/leaf-to-get-a-big-boost-in-driving-range[/quote]edatoakrun said:The Leaf's new 30 kwh battery may arrive as early as August. The battery should achieve an EPA-rated range of about 125 miles on a full charge, the source said. That compares with an EPA-rated range of 84 miles for the current battery.
The real-world range of the new battery, however, is expected to be closer to 105 to 110 miles, the source said. ...
Could be that Nissan switched from quoting actual battery capacity to usable battery capacity. Currently usable battery capacity is 21 kWh?NeilBlanchard said:If the EPA range is ~125 miles with a 30kWh battery pack, then they have made some aero improvements, or something else to get nearly a 50% increase in range, with a 25% increase in battery capacity. Since my spouse and I are averaging more than the EPA (not less), this is even more impressive.
The new battery will be the same size as the current 24-kilowatt-hour power pack but deliver 30 kwh, the source said.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20151116/OEM05/311169970/next-gen-leaf-more-tech-despite-low-salesNext-gen Leaf: More tech despite low sales
Nissan to cut EV's weight, ease charging, boost battery power and driving range
...Officially, Nissan has barely acknowledged that there will be a second-generation Leaf, let alone revealed specifics about the product, which likely will appear in the 2018-20 time frame.
But engineers in Atsugi freely show the work they are doing on a future EV that fits into the Leaf's footprint.
The team is in the late stages of a perfecting a 60 kilowatt-hour lithium ion vehicle battery that has the same dimensions as the 30 kWh battery just introduced on the 2016 Leaf. The 30 kWh battery is an enhancement from last year's 24 kWh battery.
The 60 kWh battery has graduated from r&d last year to running in prototypes today.
Teams also have targeted aerodynamics in a big way for the next EV. Engineers at Atsugi note that even a small improvement in aerodynamic design goes a long way on a battery-powered vehicle...
The enhancements also have targeted the chemical resistance involved in recharging the battery...
In discussing the Leaf's future, Ghosn also hints at a shift in marketing strategy. He acknowledges that U.S. consumers have focused mainly on the economics of owning a battery-powered car. Their equation is how much of the monthly household budget can be saved by not filling up a gasoline tank -- a math equation that loses its excitement when gasoline drops to $1.95 a gallon, as it is in some areas today.
Ghosn says that the marketing focus instead should be environmental...
"The price of gasoline is going to be either head wind or tail wind for us. It will slow you down or accelerate you," he says. "But it's not going to change the direction of where we're going."
We have a dedicated sub-forum for it - as we expect a lot of posting about this to be in just one thread.edatoakrun said:Hey moderators, can we designate/merge an official Gen 2 LEAF thread?
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