edatoakrun said:
2018 Nissan Leaf: first glimpse at specs and prices
...Notice that the 2018 Nissan Leaf is bigger and heavier than the outgoing 2017 version. However, Nissan managed to make it more efficient by improving the aerodynamics and the powertrain.
The specs of the electric motor (110 kW) and battery (40 kWh) offered without a price increase...
http://pushevs.com/2017/08/07/2018-nissan-leaf-first-glimpse-specs-prices/
https://www.autobytel.com/nissan/leaf/2018/specifications/
https://www.autobytel.com/nissan/leaf/2018/configurator/
I'm a little bit disappointed that it seams to be ~110 Lbs heavier, and have no more interior space than the Gen 1, if the autobytel specs are to be believed.
Not looking too good (so far) for the significant efficiency gains I was hoping for.
Shoot if those numbers are real, it's a disappointment in terms of pricing.
(tesla battery stuff is estimated obviously)
Tesla Model 3 Long-Range - $44,000 | 70 kWh (est total) | 310 miles EPA Range | $142 per mile | 4.4285 mpkWh (est total)
Tesla Model 3 Standard - $35,000 | 50 kWh (est total) | 220 miles EPA Range | $159 per mile | 4.4 mpkWh (est total)
2017 Chevrolet Bolt - $36,680 | 60 kWh (total) | 238 miles EPA Range | $154 per mile | 3.96 mpkWh (total)
2017 Hyundai Ioniq - $29,500 | 28 kWh (total) | 125 miles EPA Range | $236 per mile | 4.46 mpkWh (total)
2017 Nissan Leaf - $30,680 | 30 kWh (total) | 107 miles EPA Range | $287 per mile | 3.56 mpkWh (total)
2018 Nissan Leaf - $29,990 | 40 kWh (total) | 150 miles EPA Range (est) | $200 per mile | 3.75 mpkWh (total)
I know they could go on about pro pilot or whatever else they are putting in there to compete with Tesla, but meh. The price is an improvement, and I bet dealers have a real hard time moving new 2017s anytime soon without a significant price drop (they are still going for $30K upwards around Pittsburgh). But when you do the math, why not spend the extra $7K and get 88 more miles of range?
Also, how are heated seats / steering wheel not standard in EVs at this point? Also quick charging not being standard? Car manufacturers need to make money but geez.
if they wanted this to hold onto its title as the best selling EV, they needed to price it lower IMHO
I mean that price is an improvement for sure, but not a game changer