mikerancourt
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My 2012 has problems after getting an old, tired 24kwh battery put in (see below for more context). Yes, I got a 5 bar 24kwh battery put into my car on purpose. See more context below and my theory and questions below that.
Here are the symptoms:
It's a long story, but to try to keep it short: In July 2022, I brought my Leaf to a company in OC, CA to get a 40kwh battery upgrade. I assumed they'd use a CAN Bridge and the pack would work like normal, but they didn't (they present it as a virtue because they only use OEM parts). They just took the BMS from my 24kwh pack and put it on the 40kwh. The SOC (and I suspect SOH) bars and GOM were not nearly accurate and Leaf Spy still showed a 24kwh battery and gave nonsense readings. The car could go a good 30 miles after reaching 0 bars/0% SOC. Total range was maybe around 120 miles, but with no reliable SOC indicators. I ended up needing to get towed twice. I was unhappy with this, so I brought the car back 6 months later to get a (partial) refund. In reality, they "facilitated the sale of my battery to another customer," which was different. The whole process was messy, with misleading statements, surprise labor charges, and condescension. They told me they'd put in a 24kwh battery that came from another customer and to not expect much range out of it, which was fine. The one they put in has 5 bars (a little less range than with the battery I brought in in July, which is fine). BTW, I got a new car and don't need this one. I was just hoping to sell this for a few thousand (just to help me feel less bad about getting ripped off), presumably to someone with a good plan to replace the battery.
The obvious thing to do is take the car to the installer, but that's a burned bridge. I would like to try to get more info before considering that. Plus, it's far from where I live and not easy.
What I've done so far:
Someone in a group noted that the flashing blue light can indicate that one of the following systems is operating: Climate control timer, Remote climate control, Li-ion battery heater. So, I had a hunch. I crawled under the car and checked to see if they installed a pack with a Cold Climate Package. I found only two plugs on the pack, so that means it's not a Cold Climate-equipped battery. I believe that my car does have the Cold Climate Package.
Theory and questions:
Mike
Here are the symptoms:
- The #3 blue light flashes for hours and hours, and at the same time, there is a hum or whir coming from the motor compartment, just under/to the right of the coolant reservoir. https://postimg.cc/dkns6nTS
- There are also DTC's that seem to have to do with the CAN: u1000 and p318d. Also at one point had p3197 and p3191, but not currently.
- Driving the other day, the turtle light came on with 4 SOC bars and 44% SOC according to Leaf Spy
It's a long story, but to try to keep it short: In July 2022, I brought my Leaf to a company in OC, CA to get a 40kwh battery upgrade. I assumed they'd use a CAN Bridge and the pack would work like normal, but they didn't (they present it as a virtue because they only use OEM parts). They just took the BMS from my 24kwh pack and put it on the 40kwh. The SOC (and I suspect SOH) bars and GOM were not nearly accurate and Leaf Spy still showed a 24kwh battery and gave nonsense readings. The car could go a good 30 miles after reaching 0 bars/0% SOC. Total range was maybe around 120 miles, but with no reliable SOC indicators. I ended up needing to get towed twice. I was unhappy with this, so I brought the car back 6 months later to get a (partial) refund. In reality, they "facilitated the sale of my battery to another customer," which was different. The whole process was messy, with misleading statements, surprise labor charges, and condescension. They told me they'd put in a 24kwh battery that came from another customer and to not expect much range out of it, which was fine. The one they put in has 5 bars (a little less range than with the battery I brought in in July, which is fine). BTW, I got a new car and don't need this one. I was just hoping to sell this for a few thousand (just to help me feel less bad about getting ripped off), presumably to someone with a good plan to replace the battery.
The obvious thing to do is take the car to the installer, but that's a burned bridge. I would like to try to get more info before considering that. Plus, it's far from where I live and not easy.
What I've done so far:
Someone in a group noted that the flashing blue light can indicate that one of the following systems is operating: Climate control timer, Remote climate control, Li-ion battery heater. So, I had a hunch. I crawled under the car and checked to see if they installed a pack with a Cold Climate Package. I found only two plugs on the pack, so that means it's not a Cold Climate-equipped battery. I believe that my car does have the Cold Climate Package.
Theory and questions:
- First question. Am I correct in thinking that heated seats and steering wheel does mean that I have a cold climate package? I've always assumed that's what that is, and I've seen folks say that in this forum (https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=15994). Is it true?
- I guess I should ask, am I right in thinking that a Cold Climate pack has three plugs (red, orange, black)?
- Does it stand to reason that a car with a Cold Climate Package with a Non-Cold Climate battery might have the codes and problems listed above?
- Does this collection of codes and symptoms indicate anything to anyone out there? I'm hoping that somebody will just be like, "oh, they clearly forgot to connect this one wire and you can do it yourself easily."
- What's that humming thing behind the coolant reservoir? https://postimg.cc/dkns6nTS
Mike
