New flooded nissan leaf

[SuperGrover]

I am not suggesting buying a flood damaged car, however when considering such a choice I think one should take into consideration what the car was designed to endure and how it has been tested. If it were not flooded by salt water I think it might be worth considering.

Take a look at the following test footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxL4LVgdP7E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[Klayfish]

I am not suggesting buying a flood damaged car, however when considering such a choice I think one should take into consideration what the car was designed to endure and how it has been tested. If it were not flooded by salt water I think it might be worth considering.

Take a look at the following test footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxL4LVgdP7E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I didn't have time to watch it all the way through, just the first few minutes. That's water up to the bumper, and the car was driving through it, which means it was pushing the water away from the sides (i.e. the doors) as it went through. Make the water as high as the bottom of the side windows and let the car sit in it for a few hours...then run the test. Driving through a deep puddle is one thing, being flooded is another ballgame.

 

[donald]

No-one's asked what seems to me an obvious question - does it come with a warranty? Can you get someone else to worry financially about any future unreliability?

I would not at all be surprised if EVs are essentially immune to a low level of flooding. This is because it is that much more critical to an EV to ensure there is minimal penetration and no retained water during wading (which it will be designed for), so you would be comparing apples and oranges in regards the robustness to water immersion between IEC and EV. The 12V electrical circuits on ICEs may well be considered 'trivial, non-risk' and be given little in the way of extra engineering to prevent the possibility of water ingress. Whereas for a 400V EV, different standards would be applied.

... Just food for thought ...

 

[nonleafeater]

Run, run away. Btw, the Li-ion battery does have a breather on the external case, so there is a possibility that salt water could have penetrated the case if the water was deep enough.

 

[RonDawg]

No-one's asked what seems to me an obvious question - does it come with a warranty? Can you get someone else to worry financially about any future unreliability?

The OP is in Morocco so the warranty from a Leaf originally sold in North America would be void anyway. Salvage titles usually void manufacturer warranties anyway, at least in the US.

And I could only imagine the heat-caused battery capacity degradation for a Leaf that was in North Africa. Even the cooler coastal area might be as warm as the warmer parts of SoCal.

 

[cwerdna]

Besides the issues of rust, mold, electronics and connectors getting wet that aren't supposed, etc. I'd also be concerned about contamination of fluids (e.g. coolant, brake fluid, etc.) and what that'd do/has done to the systems that those fluids circulate through.

When charging, I can definitely tell some pumps are running and the whole PDM stack (http://www.sae.org/mags/aei/11993/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false gets pretty warm. The hoses also get a little warm.

But this isn't some sentra.
Nissan truly won't sell you some of these parts.
As I have discovered, they don't even have part numbers in their system for some of them.

Yep, see http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=13136" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=299259#p299259" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. If you don't know what Consult III+ is, dig around http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I don't know the price of an annual subscription, but I'd bet it's not cheap.

I would seriously run away from a flooded car. I agree w/the earlier comments that about the only use for a flooded car might be for a body parts car.

BTW, OP, I know you said your location already but can you update your location info via User Control Panel (near top) > Profile (left side)? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.

 

[toasty]

how much are these flooded leafs?

$2000 ? $3000? if yes, then ill buy one too.


but if they are $10,000 or $12,000 heck no.

 

[EVDRIVER]

Besides the issues of rust, mold, electronics and connectors getting wet that aren't supposed, etc. I'd also be concerned about contamination of fluids (e.g. coolant, brake fluid, etc.) and what that'd do/has done to the systems that those fluids circulate through.

When charging, I can definitely tell some pumps are running and the whole PDM stack (http://www.sae.org/mags/aei/11993/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false gets pretty warm. The hoses also get a little warm.

But this isn't some sentra.
Nissan truly won't sell you some of these parts.
As I have discovered, they don't even have part numbers in their system for some of them.

Yep, see http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=13136" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=299259#p299259" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. If you don't know what Consult III+ is, dig around http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I don't know the price of an annual subscription, but I'd bet it's not cheap.

I would seriously run away from a flooded car. I agree w/the earlier comments that about the only use for a flooded car might be for a body parts car.

BTW, OP, I know you said your location already but can you update your location info via User Control Panel (near top) > Profile (left side)? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.

Consult is not monthly it's about a flat $5K

 

[cwerdna]

^^^
http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=25" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; says

This site facilitates the purchase of a CONSULT-III plus (C-III plus) software Annual Subscription...

 

[garygid]

A breather on the Battery Pack?
I thought that it is sealed, and slightly pressurized.

Is that a guess, or do you have supporting references, please?

 

[TimLee]

A breather on the Battery Pack?
I thought that it is sealed, and slightly pressurized.

Is that a guess, or do you have supporting references, please?

Same question I had.
I also thought it was sealed.
But a lot of metal tanks, rail cars, etc. that are nominally "sealed", do require pressure relief / vacuum relief devices.
My guess is that it isn't a so called "breather", more likely a pressure relief / vacuum relief device, to avoid the risk of the battery box exploding if a fire did occur within the cells.
If that's the case, unlikely that a flooded LEAF got water directly into the battery pack.
But if substantially flooded, its hard to see how the water wouldn't have shorted the pack.
Yes, the high voltage contactor would initially be open.
But is the contactor water tight to keep it from shorting when flooded?

 

[EVDRIVER]

The pack is sealed and under slight pressure. Unless that is breached it won't leak. You can't put something under pressure and have water enter at the same time. Regardless unless this is $2k it is not a good option for other than parts.

 

[garygid]

The contactor is inside the battery pack, so no High
Voltage would appear outside the Pack.

 

[TimLee]

The pack is sealed and under slight pressure. Unless that is breached it won't leak. You can't put something under pressure and have water enter at the same time. Regardless unless this is $2k it is not a good option for other than parts.

I agree that trying to put a flooded LEAF back into service is a truly BAD idea, should only be used for a few select parts.
Does the sealed pack that is under slight pressure have a pressure relief valve?
With the contactor inside the pack and the pack slightly pressurized, the pack might be OK, other than corrosion on the external high voltage and low voltage connections? :?

 

[bowthom]

Hello,
Slightly OT but............
I had a friend who bought a used Ford Econoline and brought it in for a tune up. Bad milage was the complaint. I checked everything but all was in order until I took apart a rear door to fix a lock and discovered all the interior spaces were filled with mud. It's like they cleaned the visible parts but left everything else even inside the seats. I ended up taking the entire interior apart to clean out the ton (literally) of dirt. Electrical problems were often and unusual but he kept it as a utility vehicle (painter) for several years.

Just musing the idea of a "flooded" leaf

 

[toasty]

i hope he wasnt talking about the ones that was on ebay for $7k

 

[TorC]

I have bought one of these "flooded Leaf" for body parts. They will NEVER run. The damage to the electrical system is severe.

However a lot of the electronics could possible work with a lot of cleaning and testing. The high voltage system seems to be clean.

If anyone wants parts for testing or anything else please send me a PM. All defective items will be sold for scrap value + shipping + packaging.

 

[GIBBER]

Hello,

I want to buy a Leaf, but my budget does not allow for one. I was looking online and found many flooded brand new Leafs. from the pictures the carpet is not damaged and there is no sign of water.

Tell me reasons why I should not to buy it, and maybe make small repairs. because from the price I have a yes everywhere.

NEVER EVER buy any car that is totaled due to flood damage. It is criminal that some states still allow the sale of these vehicles. I have 25 years in new car dealers as a Service Manager and the only reason I would ever buy one is to use it for body panel donation only.

 

[ydnas7]

Nissan battery pack were tested as safe in a submerged condition.

water kills a cars electronic's consider it ironic that the LEAF's battery is a OK after a flood.

nb a Mitsubishi i Miev is designed so to faciliate killing it's battery with water in some situations, after a flood their battery is dead.

 

[XeonPony]

gues we found a cheap battery replacement for our leafs! 5 to7k for a realitievely new if not smelly battery! (Depending what it was flooded with)