evguy said:I don't like the idea at all... it's just one more thing you have to pay for monthly. Why not build it into the cost of the vehicle so when you buy the Nissan Leaf, you actually get a complete working model? Not some shell that's useless until you lease the batteries!
Nope, still glad I bought. Of course, that could change in the next year or two, but with just over 5% capacity loss in the first year (per Gid count, could be less since Gids appear to vary re: how many wh each one represents) I am satisfied. However, so far I am disappointed in the way Nissan is handling the capacity loss problems in very hot climates.debraredhead said:My guess would be that everyone that bought the Leaf now wishes they had leased the battery.
Now there's some outside-the-box thinking. I've long been an advocate of battery leasing as the only way we'll get to widespread deployment of EVs anytime soon, but moving the subsidy (and it could be considerably less than the $7,500/car now) to just help with battery leasing costs seems like a terrific idea. It would need to be a straight rebate instead of a tax credit to get a buy-in by mainstream consumers. Not that it will happen with the makeup of the current or (almost certainly) next congress, but it's something to agitate for.Volusiano said:<snip>
I would even propose that the federal government, instead of subsidizing the cost of the whole car with tax credit or rebate, subsidize only the cost of the battery lease instead. The public can afford to pay for the EV sans battery without any subsidy if it costs the same as an ICE counterpart, but the government can subsidize the cost of the battery lease to make sure that its total energy cost to operate is lower than the gasoline energy cost, thereby tipping the money scale so it becomes a no-brainer to switch to an EV financially.
I wasn't active on MNL when I originally heard the statement I posted at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=209091#p209091" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.Volusiano said:I don't see why they can't offer all 3 options:
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3. Buy the car and lease the battery (MSRP - $15K = $22,250 for SL and $20,200 for SV, and whatever lease term for battery based on $15K MSRP for battery, assuming that the battery costs $15K).
Did anyone ever answer that question or was it discussed? Prior to the Leaf going on sale, I know that Ghosn and Nissan always kept talking about how the battery would be lease only.cwerdna said:An EV enthusiast at Priuschat claimed (from http://priuschat.com/threads/nissan-leaf-checking-it-out-tonight.72340/page-4#post-1094194" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
Curious... is this true for the US or an urban legend?It turns out that this is an illegal practice... to sell a car that requires a leased part to make it work.
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