May I give this a try? Note how "I don't have the energy to do that" and "I don't have the power to do that" mean different things.nerys said:I have no problem with anyone disagrreing with me though i dont think you are disagreeing with me. The dictionary is clear. Disagree with that? Explain that is all i ask. Everyone here refuses to i just keep getting variations of you are stupid and because we said. And you wonder why i resist?
nerys said:The core problem is some are trying to force scientific usage in a non scientific discussion.
No.nerys said:The gom is not an energy meter. It would have to display kwh for that. It is a battery/car/system power meter. Units is miles.
No, I don't have the power to do that.Rauv said:Can someone Google "wasted energy".. Oh wait...That's how I got here.
nerys said:It probably hasn't occured to you that we are not having any sort of scientific discussion. At all. In any way shape or form.
Well, I did use your definition and tried to show how you've misinterpreted that definition. Even when not referring to a machine that uses energy to do work, "power" in English refers to an ability or capability to do something, not to the amount of work or energy or effort needed to complete a task.nerys said:Notice. you did not link to a definition of power. you linked to a definition of Power (physics). which is not the word I was using. why do you intentionally refuse to acknowledge this. use the right word
And you're really going too far to say the GOM is not a measure of available energy just because it uses miles or kilometers rather than kWh. It is still a measure of the amount of energy available expressed as the potential amount of work that can be done (in distance). It's not the choice of units that's important. It's what is being measured. If you increase power output that doesn't mean you go further, it means you go faster (and not as far due to increased wind resistance).nerys said:The gom is not an energy meter. It would have to display kwh for that. It is a battery/car/system power meter. Units is miles. The bubbles up top are also a power meter but only power from the motor.
Well, I am trying to show you and acknowledging that people (myself included) misuse "power" to refer to the amount of energy left in a battery.nerys said:I can not see what is wrong with this. Yet i get a ton of nasty in this thread.
Well, that's not true. Plenty of words get contradictory meanings over time, usually starting as informal slang. Yes, it's confusing but it still happens. Heck, you could argue my "literally" example is just such a case.w4y said:Even if you were to dismiss the physics definition as irrelevant, there is no way a word could have two countering definitions that act as antonyms of each other. That would cause too much confusion in everyday conversation, and people would start to stop using one of the definitions. Therefore, there is *no way* your interpretation of the definition of power can be fundamentally different than the physics definition of power -- it would cause too much confusion by everyone.
Christopher said:Well, that's not true. Plenty of words get contradictory meanings over time, usually starting as informal slang. Yes, it's confusing but it still happens. Heck, you could argue my "literally" example is just such a case.w4y said:Even if you were to dismiss the physics definition as irrelevant, there is no way a word could have two countering definitions that act as antonyms of each other. That would cause too much confusion in everyday conversation, and people would start to stop using one of the definitions. Therefore, there is *no way* your interpretation of the definition of power can be fundamentally different than the physics definition of power -- it would cause too much confusion by everyone.
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