RonDawg said:oko said:Have you considered Honda Clarity? IMO it is a much better car then Leaf, Bolt, Volt. You got a pretty luxury car for almost the price you pay for those. I have a Leaf and Clarity and always want to drive the latter .
With the battery losses (I am in TX) and Nissan's attitude, this Leaf will be my last Leaf and last Nissan ever.
The pure EV version of the Clarity is only available in CA and I think OR. The FCEV version is only for certain Californians (those who live/work near a hydrogen fuel station). Only the PHEV version is available nationwide.
Since the OP is concerned about reliability, there have been issues with the Clarity: https://tiremeetsroad.com/2018/10/27/honda-drops-6-spots-in-consumer-reports-reliability-honda-clarity-largely-to-blame/
SageBrush said:Is it just my imagination or is this thread click-bait for spam ?
People are happy with the car, but that doesn't mean it has no problems.oko said:If you search for "Clarity owner forums", you'll see almost everyone is very happy with the Clarity
jlv said:People are happy with the car, but that doesn't mean it has no problems.oko said:If you search for "Clarity owner forums", you'll see almost everyone is very happy with the Clarity
There are 6 Clarity PHEVs here at work and all of them suffer from charging system issues. E.g., the car won't start to charge sometimes. Owners have said letting the car sit for a few hours before plugging it in seems to work. Honda has reported to have a fix "soon" (but their timescale seems Musk-like, since they've been saying that all year).
joeriv said:hmmv wrote "My vote goes to the Volt, LEAF will see a much steeper depreciation than the Volt."
Not really - according to this article https://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-chevy-volt-high-depreciation/ the top three highest five year depreciation rates are the Nissan Leaf at 71.7%, the Chevy Volt at 71.2% and the BMW 7 series at 71.1%. The average for all vehicles is 50.2%.
oko said:Looks like Volt is discontinued
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/11/26/gm-general-motors-chevrolet-volt-cruze-impala/2114114002/
booper said:Thoughts on how dealers will handle the discontinued Volt? Discounted pricing, or maintain pricing as "you won't be able to get them anymore"?
LeftieBiker said:booper said:Thoughts on how dealers will handle the discontinued Volt? Discounted pricing, or maintain pricing as "you won't be able to get them anymore"?
Yes. (Both.) GM will likely offer deals starting around christmas.
Doesn't sound right. I don't think you realize how the phase out works.booper said:They should do it sooner than that, their Fed Tax Credit will be cut in half after year end!
joeriv said:hmmv wrote "My vote goes to the Volt, LEAF will see a much steeper depreciation than the Volt."
Not really - according to this article https://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-chevy-volt-high-depreciation/ the top three highest five year depreciation rates are the Nissan Leaf at 71.7%, the Chevy Volt at 71.2% and the BMW 7 series at 71.1%. The average for all vehicles is 50.2%.
golfcart said:need room in the back seat for adults (because the Volt back seats are cramped),.
RonDawg said:I don't think the Volt's rear seats are all that cramped once you're in the car. But getting into that backseat requires the skills of a contortionist if you're more than about 5 feet tall, thanks to the roofline.
And don't even try using the middle seat if you have legs.
https://insideevs.com/top-6-automakers-200000-federal-tax-credit-limit/ confirms that GM is past the 200K mark now.booper said:Thx, I must have though GM was on a similar pace as Tesla. This makes a big difference, so appreciate the correction.
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