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Last night, Walmart.com "stunned" both of our credit cards (they got locked) when I tried to order groceries for pickup from their website. So I ventured to the local grocery store during "Senior hour" right after a snowstorm, wearing two balaclavas, a dust mask under them, and black ski goggles - plus rubber gloves under thick cloth gloves. It was sparsely populated with shoppers, but I hadn't brought enough cash (I was a bit shell-shocked from the Walmart.com debacle that kept me busy all night), and had to abandon part of a cart of groceries to be restocked. I'm angry at myself for not bringing more money, at the credit card companies for freezing our cards for no good reason, and at Walmart for screwing up implementation of their grocery pickup and delivery (full up) system. I'm also not thrilled with the young cashier who kept rushing over to me to slap 'PAID" stickers on every large item in the cart. I had to ask her to stay away from me - right before having to ask her to take one item off the automated checkout.

There was no toilet paper or paper toweling at all, and maybe 1/4 as much lettuce as usual, despite the store just having opened for the day, after supposedly being restocked overnight. There was barely any pasta despite a limit of 4, and not much flour despite a limit of two per customer. I have to make my own bread and rolls for my low sodium diet, so I've been chasing flour all over the internet. I've managed to accumulate enough of it, at an approximate cost of $120. The reality at the stores isn't matching up with what we are being told by grocery organization reps on television. Now I get to spend another 14 days waiting to see if I'm infected. I also get to 'decontaminate' a trunkload of groceries tomorrow. And I'm one of the lucky ones who has most of what they need for a month or two...
 
Wow that sounds bad. I ventured to Costco today and the parking lot was probably about normal, maybe a hair less. They haven't ordered a lockdown for my state but the governor is saying it's possible. Most people seemed to be walking out with cases of bottled water :? along with huge packs of paper towels, no TP to be seen :( hope people aren't planning on using paper towels for TP :eek: damn that would be a rough wipe! Note I went out late last week and purchases seemed about the same, lots of bottled water and paper towels......
For the most part the shelves were stocked although they were out of the regular hamburger, they did have the organic though. I picked up one of the last 5lb packages last week so I'm just fine. The only thing I was looking for but they didn't have was Nestle chocolate chips, although the did have plenty of the Kirkland generic chips I passed on. I'd heard rumors the attached liquor store would be closed as a "nonessential" business but it was open and regular traffic, I picked up another case of Guinness even though I already had several at home :oops:
Crazy times for sure!
 
In New York the liquor stores are "essential" businesses.

When I stocked up as the virus was just arriving in the US I got lucky: the best deal on recycled TP was an offer I'd used before, in normal times: buy three 12 packs of Seventh Generation recycled TP and get a fourth free, essentially. It lasts long enough that I still had one left, but I re-upped on it, expecting something like this...although not THIS. I still have three of them left, although since I've been supplying my ex GF and my Sister with it, I'll be looking for more in a month. Watch for multi-packs of cheap washcloths to start vanishing next...
 
Here in BC our superstore has a security guard with a counter letting people in. Limited amount of people allowed in the store at the same time. As a result very relaxed and calm inside. Keeping staff to mins but all the shelves are well stocked. Special hours for seniors. All employees got a two dollar per hour raise for the remainder of the crisis.
 
I just watched it. It's about 5 minutes long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eggu2jkO5c

Singapore says it will make its contact tracing tech freely available to developers
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-singapore-to-make-contact-tracing-tech-open-source.html

China to lift lockdown on Wuhan, the epicenter of its coronavirus outbreak
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/24/china-to-lift-lockdown-on-wuhan-city-epicenter-of-coronavirus-outbreak.html
Two months after Chinese authorities locked down the city at the center of the country’s coronavirus outbreak, the end is in sight.

Hubei province said Tuesday that travel restrictions on the capital city of Wuhan will be removed starting April 8, which would end a lockdown that began on Jan. 23.
 
When I clicked your youtube arrow all I get is,
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:?
 
^^^
Are you talking about the Italy PBS NewsHour story? If so, how about this?
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eggu2jkO5c
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/user/PBSNewsHour/videos?view=0&sort=dd&flow=grid
might also prove useful.
 
Thanks, that worked when I copied and pasted the URL.
BTW your original youtube post(a couple of posts up) still doesn't work for me, for whatever reason.
 
‘People Are Dying’: 72 Hours Inside a N.Y.C. Hospital Battling Coronavirus
https://www.nytimes.com/video/nyregion/100000007052136/coronavirus-elmhurst-hospital-queens.html - things are not looking good in NYC :(

Spain turns ice rink into a morgue as coronavirus deaths pile up
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/europe/spain-ice-rink-morgue-coronavirus-intl/index.html
 
This is why we're trying to isolate ourselves, and why I bought an O2 concentrator: the hospitals here may just be unable to handle everyone who's sick. If either of us needs a ventilator...well, we hope that we won't.
 
jjeff said:
Nope, neither the arrow or link works but note the link cwerdna gave a few posts back works ok :)
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Video works for me, but YouTube was apparently down earlier today. Have you tried clearing your cache?
 
jjeff: I would try another browser or clear your google.com and youtube.com cookies. My primary (WIndows 10) desktop machine has at least these browsers installed: Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Brave, IE and Edge.

My work machine (a several year-old MacBook Pro 15") has at least these browsers: Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera.
 
I watched this earlier today and found it was decent. You can think of his as a South Korean version of Dr. Fauci.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU

This professor been involved with infection diseases for about 30 years. He seems like a very humble man. Unfortunately, it's all in Korean but has English subtitles. So, unless you understand Korean, you'll have to watch and read the subtitles.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel gave a good speech at https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/angela-merkel-nails-coronavirus-speech-unlike-trump.html (article title "The Leader of the Free World Gives a Speech, and She Nails It"). The video there has the same caveats except it's in German, of course. After watching that, I learned of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vT8e7lkjl8.
Official translation of German Chancellor Angela Merkel recorded in English language, with subtitles. The translation is official. The voice recording of the translation is not official but created with intent to reproduce emphasis.

I watched https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-city-coronavirus-epicenter-united-states-peak-60-minutes-2020-03-29/ (description below) on 60 Minutes earlier tonight. It's not behind a paywall yet, but I'd imagine that once it is, you should be able to see it with CBS All Access.
"Beyond anything I've seen in my career": Doctors on the front lines describe surge in coronavirus patients

Scott Pelley reports from hospitals in New York City, the new epicenter for COVID-19. Doctors describe how some patients with the disease can deteriorate suddenly and require lifesaving intensive care.
The video is about 13.5 minutes long.

Not sure if folks had seen Lt. Gen Semonite of the Army Corps of Engineers talking. Someone else posted it on social media and those who commented were impressed, as was I. He's also in the 60 Minutes piece. https://twitter.com/USArmy/status/1241440439380488194 is a short clip.
 
This is a bizarre pandemic, in that we seem to see too few deaths to frighten people - right up until they surge and it's often too late to finally start taking it seriously. So far, in Upstate NY we have had something like six deaths, with all or almost all of them being elderly people or middle-aged people with serious health issues. You'd be hard pressed to better design a pandemic to spread in this stealth mode. That and of course the amazing lack of widespread testing in the US have given us a health crisis akin to slowly, very slowly, being boiled alive.
 
LeftieBiker said:
This is a bizarre pandemic, in that we seem to see too few deaths to frighten people - right up until they surge and it's often too late to finally start taking it seriously. So far, in Upstate NY we have had something like six deaths, with all or almost all of them being elderly people or middle-aged people with serious health issues. You'd be hard pressed to better design a pandemic to spread in this stealth mode. That and of course the amazing lack of widespread testing in the US have given us a health crisis akin to slowly, very slowly, being boiled alive.

True. I think the very mild symptoms in some are resulting in a much wider spread of the disease than we know. The apparent high death rate "could" be as a low the flu as it would appear in most areas (at least in mine) many with the virus are not being tested. They are simply advised to self isolate at home and ride it out. I know two people who have been sick 3 weeks now. Another who was sick for almost two weeks then went to Emergency and was immediately admitted. I have lost contact with him so pretty sure he still isn't home yet.

But our infected count stands at 36. The numbers only change twice a week so we shall see where its at on the next change which should happen today or tomorrow but neither of the two at home are on the infected list and the 3rd likely wasn't until he hit the hospital.
 
LeftieBiker said:
This is a bizarre pandemic, in that we seem to see too few deaths to frighten people - right up until they surge and it's often too late to finally start taking it seriously. So far, in Upstate NY we have had something like six deaths, with all or almost all of them being elderly people or middle-aged people with serious health issues. You'd be hard pressed to better design a pandemic to spread in this stealth mode. That and of course the amazing lack of widespread testing in the US have given us a health crisis akin to slowly, very slowly, being boiled alive.

The asymptomatic rate is crazy. One the one Princess cruise ship, 40% of the people who tested positive were asymptomatic. In a more controlled scientific study the rate was more like 20%. But even the lower figure seems extraordinarily high to me.

I watched the Contagion movie for the second time last night, the first time being when it came out in 2011. It scared the living bejeesus out of me, just as much as it did the first time round. Maybe even more. It should probably be required viewing for everyone right now. Available on Amazon Prime for, I think, $3.99 in SD. But also available for free with a Cinemax 7-day trial. Or, I guess, if you already have a Cinemax subscription on whatever devices you have.
 
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