SageBrush said:
danrjones said:
It is, by choosing which vehicle you buy. Get the Hyundai, and you get charging speed, get the Ariya, and you get longer range. Potentially.
Obviously details on both are still pending, but we know the Hyundai and Kia will hit ~250 kW and 10-80% in 18 minutes. We know they have usable battery capacity of 77 kWh in the United states. We know Nissan originally said 90 kWh for the Ariya long range. Will that translate into more range? TBD?
That is just marketing BS. The high(er) speed charging is from hidden battery capacity
Sometimes that is the case, but not always. Hyundai it is because they moved to 800v.
Take Ford. MachE charges at "max" 150 kW. The f150 lightning was announced to charge also at max 150 kW.
But if you think about that, it does not make sense. We don't know exactly the size of the f150 pack, but the extended range pack might be as much as twice the size of the MachE. Certainly 150%. That should mean that the charging rate should increase by the same amount, after all, that would equal the same charge rate per cell.
So the f150 should have a charge rate of between 225 kW and 300 kW, depending on the actual pack size.
Why doesn't it? I would guess other hardware is the limiting factor. Internal cabling perhaps?
But the point is, its not all just battery size. Personally I think this is one area where ford dropped the ball on the f150.