valem
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:10 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:12 am
Flyct wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:02 am
Boy you’re touchy. :)

I wonder if your sentence “Have some references explaining why?” Is proper or not. Would that be considered a sentence fragment?
There's an implied you. (https://socratic.org/questions/what-is- ... ed-subject)
Flyct wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:02 am
My point is everyone knows what someone means when they incorrectly state kW instead of kWh. There’s no need to constantly point out the error.
No, we can't always tell. What's the point of encouraging incorrect unit usage? People who don't know the difference should learn it.

How would you feel about a car "expert" who answered questions like this?
Q: How fast did you go?
A: 80 miles

Q: How far did you go?
A: 80 miles per hour

Q: How much fuel did you put in?
A: 11 gallons per minute

See example below of a total cluster%#$%4 when someone didn't know what the heck they were talking about:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 05#p565905

K-MTG who I quoted at https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2470307 also didn't know what the heck he was talking about. He deleted his own post or something. We couldn't tell if he meant the power level got up to 50 kW or if 50 kWh was dispensed. He was also WAY off. The CHAdeMO adapter didn't work on the Model 3 until almost 2 years later.

There was this garbage involving nerys that I pointed to at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 27#p566027.
I can see your frustration when the correct unit of measure is not used... however it was very obvious I'm referring to storage capacity and not power output.

If I say "my Leaf has the 24 ... do you have the 24 or the 30?" I can even omit the word battery and it's very obvious what I'm referring to

Just like if I say ... "my truck is so bad I can barely get 14 miles" and don't say mpg ... you do not know what I'm trying to say?
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:38 pm

Just like if I say ... "my truck is so bad I can barely get 14 miles" and don't say mpg ... you do not know what I'm trying to say?

That it's a Fiat/Chrysler and will only go 13 miles before it breaks down...?
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valem
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:45 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:38 pm
Just like if I say ... "my truck is so bad I can barely get 14 miles" and don't say mpg ... you do not know what I'm trying to say?

That it's a Fiat/Chrysler and will only go 13 miles before it breaks down...?
:lol:
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:49 pm

The more existential question is must all Fiat mechanics really be named Tony*, or do we just call them that?


*FIAT = "Fix it Again, Tony."
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:30 pm

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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:27 pm

Leaf is still running 2nd in Norway behind the model 3 this month. It’s been pretty consistent month over month.

https://www.elbilstatistikk.no/?sort=2
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:19 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:27 pm
Leaf is still running 2nd in Norway behind the model 3 this month. It’s been pretty consistent month over month.

https://www.elbilstatistikk.no/?sort=2
If you look at 2019 (9.5 months of data) the LEAF is in 3rd place, and is holding its own against the i3 :roll:
Watch what happens when the new VW EV comes out. It is going to be a Tesla/VW market ... with a bunch of also-rans.

Nissan is going to be wiped out in Norway unless they migrate to CCS.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:37 am

valem wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:10 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:12 am
Flyct wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:02 am
Boy you’re touchy. :)

I wonder if your sentence “Have some references explaining why?” Is proper or not. Would that be considered a sentence fragment?
There's an implied you. (https://socratic.org/questions/what-is- ... ed-subject)
Flyct wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:02 am
My point is everyone knows what someone means when they incorrectly state kW instead of kWh. There’s no need to constantly point out the error.
No, we can't always tell. What's the point of encouraging incorrect unit usage? People who don't know the difference should learn it.

How would you feel about a car "expert" who answered questions like this?
Q: How fast did you go?
A: 80 miles

Q: How far did you go?
A: 80 miles per hour

Q: How much fuel did you put in?
A: 11 gallons per minute

See example below of a total cluster%#$%4 when someone didn't know what the heck they were talking about:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 05#p565905

K-MTG who I quoted at https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2470307 also didn't know what the heck he was talking about. He deleted his own post or something. We couldn't tell if he meant the power level got up to 50 kW or if 50 kWh was dispensed. He was also WAY off. The CHAdeMO adapter didn't work on the Model 3 until almost 2 years later.

There was this garbage involving nerys that I pointed to at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 27#p566027.
I can see your frustration when the correct unit of measure is not used... however it was very obvious I'm referring to storage capacity and not power output.

If I say "my Leaf has the 24 ... do you have the 24 or the 30?" I can even omit the word battery and it's very obvious what I'm referring to

Just like if I say ... "my truck is so bad I can barely get 14 miles" and don't say mpg ... you do not know what I'm trying to say?
So you find this easier than editing the post? hmmm???
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:05 am

Just saying it sells pretty well (on a relative population basis) in Norway still.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:38 am

I'm still fairly likely to buy my leaf when the lease is up depending on what a used Model 3 costs and how my battery looks in 2.5 years. It's a great car... reliable, roomy, comfortable, has nice features, and is a hatchback. If you aren't in a really hot environment and don't need the car for road trips then it is a hell of a value.
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