Anitza
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2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:24 am

Hi - my 2011 sat outside (in full summer sun) for 5 weeks while I was recovering from surgery. I left it plugged in for the first couple weeks (I had other things on my mind) then unplugged it (sitting at 80% charge in theory).

I tried today to see where it was at, and there are no signs of electronic life at all. It doesn't beep when the fob is near. Even the parking break light if off. And it certainly doesn't turn on or accept an instant charge.

I don't have an easy way to test the 12V. (I've read elsewhere on this forum that leaving it plugged in too long can do weird things to the 2011 12V... again I had other things on my mind.)

I suppose I will have to have it towed to a dealer, but any things to try would be super appreciated. Or even tips to ensure I don't get sscrewed at the dealer. :roll:
2011 Leaf purchased used in 2019.

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Dala
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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:57 am

The 2011 model has a bug in it, so when you leave it plugged in for an extended amount of time it will not charge the 12V battery. This is probably what killed the 12V lead acid battery.

No need to tow it, just pop the hood, get a fresh 12V battery, and install it. The car should spring to life.

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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:00 am

Almost certainly the 12V battery. If you have another car, you can use jumper cables to make sure the LEAF powers on that way. Otherwise, if you have a 12V battery charger then hook that up.

Honestly, if the 12V battery is more than 3 years old then just replace it.

You don't need to have it towed for any of the above
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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:01 am

Double post, Dala must have been composing his post at the same time I was ;)
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Loving my first BEV :D

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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:04 am

Anitza wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:24 am
Hi - my 2011 sat outside (in full summer sun) for 5 weeks while I was recovering from surgery. I left it plugged in for the first couple weeks (I had other things on my mind) then unplugged it (sitting at 80% charge in theory).

I tried today to see where it was at, and there are no signs of electronic life at all. It doesn't beep when the fob is near. Even the parking break light if off. And it certainly doesn't turn on or accept an instant charge.

I don't have an easy way to test the 12V. (I've read elsewhere on this forum that leaving it plugged in too long can do weird things to the 2011 12V... again I had other things on my mind.)

I suppose I will have to have it towed to a dealer, but any things to try would be super appreciated. Or even tips to ensure I don't get sscrewed at the dealer. :roll:
How old is your battery? If original, it is very likely dead. If not dead, then weakened to the point of not being trust-able.


If you are a AAA member, perhaps do this:

https://wa.aaa.com/automotive/battery-service.html

While more expensive than buying a battery and installing yourself, probably cheaper than having the car towed and the dealer installing a battery. But not everyone wants to install a battery.

Jumper cables or a battery charger might be good enough to get the car to drive someplace that will install a battery, as well.
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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:55 pm

2011 will charge 12V battery while actively charging traction battery, but will discharge 12V battery slowly over time if left plugged in after charging is complete (either 80% or 100%, depending upon charge timer settings). Since the 12V battery was likely dead after the first week, it sat for a month fully discharged (which is very bad for lead acid batteries) so you need to purchase and install a new 12V battery. The car should then be fine.
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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:25 pm

I agree with the dead/almost_dead 12v battery.
No reason at all to tow the LEAF just for 12v battery replacement, and even less reason to go near a Nissan dealership. You will end up paying 3x if you go to Nissan.

I replaced the 12v in our LEAF a couple of years ago with a replacement from Walmart for ~ $100. If you want someone else to do the install, try getting the car to come to life with the help of a friend's car and some jumper cables*, then drive to an auto parts store ** that offers installation as part of the battery price.

*You may need to keep the cars connected for a couple of minutes before yours will start if your 12v is in particularly bad shape.
** Call ahead to verify that they have the 12v replacement battery you need in stock

Good luck !
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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:55 pm

Indeed. If one goes to a Nissan dealer for a 12 volt and has them install it, it will be expensive. I bought a replacement from Costco and DIY. See viewtopic.php?p=572068#p572068 for pricing.

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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:09 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:55 pm
See viewtopic.php?p=572068#p572068 for pricing.
Good link
51R is the ticket.

Do all replacements have and use the vent tube ?
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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cwerdna
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Re: 2011 Leaf sat for 5 weeks, now shows no signs of life

Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:19 pm

I don't recall any vent tube. The original, the "84 month" replacement and the Interstate battery I got from Costco are standard flooded batteries with vent caps that you can remove to add water. The battery goes under the hood, so I don't think there's any concern/need for vent tubes.

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