1932highboy
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After a 4 hour wait at dealership, I been informed I qualify for a new battery on my 2011 Leaf. They have ordered the battery and install kit. No idea of delivery date.
jeremyz said:Our 2011 Leaf dropped its 4th bar last month (at about 33,000 miles).
jeremyz said:I lost my 4th bar on August 19, 2014. My VIN is in the 8400's
AHr=43.39 SOH=66% 391.39V Hx=45.07% 34,346 miles
mwalsh said:jeremyz said:I lost my 4th bar on August 19, 2014. My VIN is in the 8400's
AHr=43.39 SOH=66% 391.39V Hx=45.07% 34,346 miles
Perfect! TY!
jeremyz said:I lost my 4th bar on August 19, 2014. My VIN is in the 8400's
AHr=43.39 SOH=66% 391.39V Hx=45.07% 34,346 miles
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1099894_2016-nissan-leaf-offers-107-mile-range-with-30-kwh-battery-leaf-s-unchanged#comment-2246197269Firetruck41 said:What is GCR?
When Nissan corporate declares "it is not compatible" that just means "Nissan won't do it". I find it extremely hard to believe that we have a definitive answer that there is no way to get it to work. We know that Nissan will say it won't work, but until an enthusiast or the aftermarket actually has the battery pack or technical documentation, I would not definitively say "it won't work".
Thanks. Per the single comment I could find related to this, as I suspected, Nissan (marketing) corporate does not intend to use 30kwh batts in old cars. No surprise there. Until we know the technological hurdles, it remains to be seen if there will be a way to use the 30kwh pack in an "old" Leaf (without Nissan's blessing, of course).cwerdna said:http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1099894_2016-nissan-leaf-offers-107-mile-range-with-30-kwh-battery-leaf-s-unchanged#comment-2246197269Firetruck41 said:What is GCR?
When Nissan corporate declares "it is not compatible" that just means "Nissan won't do it". I find it extremely hard to believe that we have a definitive answer that there is no way to get it to work. We know that Nissan will say it won't work, but until an enthusiast or the aftermarket actually has the battery pack or technical documentation, I would not definitively say "it won't work".
TimLee said:None.mxp said:... Do we know how many other 2011 owners on our forum who have surpassed the 5 yr mark, and was denied a battery replacement ? If so, did they even argue their case with Nissan?
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It is too early.
The first 2011 LEAF was delivered in December 2010.
Even that first delivery will not be at five years until December of 2015.
Firetruck41 said:Per the single comment I could find related to this, as I suspected, Nissan (marketing) corporate does not intend to use 30kwh batts in old cars. No surprise there. Until we know the technological hurdles, it remains to be seen if there will be a way to use the 30kwh pack in an "old" Leaf (without Nissan's blessing, of course).
WetEV said:Firetruck41 said:Per the single comment I could find related to this, as I suspected, Nissan (marketing) corporate does not intend to use 30kwh batts in old cars. No surprise there. Until we know the technological hurdles, it remains to be seen if there will be a way to use the 30kwh pack in an "old" Leaf (without Nissan's blessing, of course).
This might be Nissan engineering, not marketing.
As an engineer, I'd want to be somewhat cautious in putting a different battery in an older car. Might be a firmware compatibility problem, or perhaps other issues. The only way to be real sure is to instrument the communications and test over a range of conditions. If this is your car, of course, this is fun. Not so fun when it is a customer's car.
Testing costs money. Even if no changes are needed or unexpected issues turn up.
So is there a positive return on investment? If not, why should Nissan spend the resources on this? Even if there is, this has to be second priority to getting the car with the 30kWh battery into production.
Now, a year or two from now, with larger margin and larger expected sales, the answer might be different. And once the production of the 24kWh battery is ramping down, there may be savings from not supporting the old battery and just switching to the newer technology.
(Disclosure: I once worked in automotive electronics design.)
And Nissan has incorporated features such as the coded integrated circuit that is needed to install a replacement pack in an existing vehicle and make it work.Firetruck41 said:...
Oh yes, not discounting that there may be intentional technological limitations/hurdles, just pretty certain there also is no corporate desire to put 30kwh packs in old Leafs at this point, and no support for us to do so, from Nisssan. It almost certainly rests on enthusiast owners and the aftermarket to find a way to make it happen... if its possible.
jeremyz said:The reading was from August 19th right after I lost the bar. I live in Austin, TX.
jeremyz said:The reading was from August 19th right after I lost the bar. I live in Austin, TX.
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