I'm pretty sure that MT gave the Prius COTY when the 2nd gen was released in 2004...charlie1300 said:AW... come on...give the guys at MT a break.... This is a real step forward for them.
drees said:I suspect the race for COY between the Volt/Leaf was close - and could have gone either way. Perhaps if Nissan hadn't been so stingy with the demo drives - I don't think anyone has gotten a Leaf for an extended review period yet. Tough to hand out awards without living with a car for at least a couple days.
How is that when nearly half the field were from Asian auto makers?lne937s said:No, Motor Trend didn't include the LEAF in the competition. MT has taken a very pro-Detroit stance lately.
ColinSummers said:I charge my Volt every night when the rates are at their lowest.
According to the app on my iPhone, the car has gone 537 miles, 262 totally electric, for an MPG of 316.
I blame GM for those gas miles. Since I've had it I've burnt 0.07 gallons and 0.03 gallons on two separate days. I wouldn't have burnt that much, but I've been letting people test drive it and encouraging them to stomp on the pedal.
I probably should let Colin Summers respond himself, but we may have chased him away with all our Volt-bashing. I note from his blog that he must have had the Volt at least four days before his post here. I think perhaps he was just referring to two specific days of fuel consumption, not to the total used since he got the car.mynameisjim said:I want to revisit this as it seems to have slipped by. Are you saying you traveled 275 non-ev miles on .1 gallons of fuel? That comes out to a fuel economy of 2,750 mpg.ColinSummers said:I charge my Volt every night when the rates are at their lowest. According to the app on my iPhone, the car has gone 537 miles, 262 totally electric, for an MPG of 316. I blame GM for those gas miles. Since I've had it I've burnt 0.07 gallons and 0.03 gallons on two separate days. I wouldn't have burnt that much, but I've been letting people test drive it and encouraging them to stomp on the pedal.
As I see it, if one drives a Volt like that it'll have lots of issues. Gasoline deteriorates in a short period of time, so your Volt could end up just like a poorly cared for weed trimmer or lawn mower. Or you can spend money on fuel stabilizers which can make it last up to a year.
planet4ever said:I probably should let Colin Summers respond himself, but we may have chased him away with all our Volt-bashing.
GroundLoop said:I've got no beef with MT's pick. The Leaf won't ship until 2011 anyway.
I would have preferred to see GM market it more honestly, but getting an award for "first production Plug-In Hybrid" seems pretty well-deserved.
DaveinOlyWA said:the Prius was essentially backordered for over 3 years despite several increases in production quotas. i predict the Leaf to out do that record by more than 50%.
palmermd said:GroundLoop said:I've got no beef with MT's pick. The Leaf won't ship until 2011 anyway.
I would have preferred to see GM market it more honestly, but getting an award for "first production Plug-In Hybrid" seems pretty well-deserved.
And your sure that the Volt will be delivered in 2010? They have not even built "job1" yet.
TRONZ said:Actually, if you scan over page 2 of this thread you will note that Volt deliveries have already begun.
palmermd said:TRONZ said:Actually, if you scan over page 2 of this thread you will note that Volt deliveries have already begun.
These are not production cars, they are preproduction. These are not customer deliveries they are Customer Advisory Board member deliveries. These cars will be sent back to GM for disposal after the 3 month review/evaluation is complete.
http://gm-volt.com/chevrolet-volt-consumer-advisory-board-chevy-volt-cab-gm-volt-cab/
Yes, it is exciting about both of these cars, but I was only commenting that the poster said that Leaf wont be in customers hands by the end of 2010 so it should not have won the award and Volt should have. I wanted to point out that Leaf has completed "job1" and has built cars for customers and Volt has not. This puts Leaf in a better position to deliver by the end of the year than Volt thereby blowing his theory out of the water. I expect to see limited numbers of both vehicles in the hands of real customers by the end of the year.
DaveinOlyWA said:but as usual, they have put out a car i cannot consider. its simply too much money PERIOD.
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