Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

[adric22]

here in Austin texas there are 20+ focus electric available to buy.The price after all rebates,credits,etc is $26,ooo +tax and fees.And 0% apr for 60 months.This looks like Ford wants to sell some of these.The batterie has a 8 year ,100k mile warrenty,also.
what is the leaf batterie warrenty.

that's great! I didn't know they were available anywhere outside California. I would have to flat-bed the car here to Ft.Worth, or at least to Waco for sure...

Are they doing any lease deals on those?

 

[MrIanB]

I live here in nw Austin and have not seen one yet. Anyways, would not buy another Ford based on my first car being an Escort and once paid off, all hell broke and got rid of it. Over the years, their quality has gotten better, their car design does not appeal to me and the resale value is poor.

I will keep my Chili Leaf for now till next wave of ev new cars. Unfortunately, unless Nissan goes to a liquid cooled battery TMS, I am done with them. Hope Tesla leases will be available when done w lease in 3 years, or may go w a Volt or BMW Ev.

Ian B

 

[kubel]

I priced out a Ford Focus EV. The lease is $2/mo more expensive than a Ford Focus Titanium (gas equivalent). It almost makes me regret getting my LEAF. The Focus EV is a much nicer car. No heated steering wheel option though. It's one of my most loved and most hated features of the LEAF. :lol:

Anyway- incentives are EXCELLENT for leasing a LEAF right now.

 

[cwerdna]

And, you saw a reason to start a new thread on the FFE instead of using the existing one at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6641" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

 

[evnow]

Merged.

 

[Bicster]

here in Austin texas there are 20+ focus electric available to buy.The price after all rebates,credits,etc is $26,ooo +tax and fees.And 0% apr for 60 months.This looks like Ford wants to sell some of these.The batterie has a 8 year ,100k mile warrenty,also.
what is the leaf batterie warrenty.

The 8/100 FFE battery warranty doesn't cover loss of range, however.

 

[rolson1011]

you can get a very nice lease on a FFE right now in CA.. or at least norcal. 159 a mo with 2188 due at signing, security deposit is waived. The fed tax credit is rolled into the lease price and this is not incl the CARB credit of $2500 you'd be eligible for on a 3 yr lease. https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/901028_10200184363626486_718694378_o.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Valdemar]

For a SoCal zip code the lease deal got better after April 1st, now the breakdown shows $11,750 incentive vs. $10,000 previously, expires 7/8/2013. Still not as good as previously posted, even on a 10.5k miles/year plan, probably zip code makes a difference.

 

[Pipcecil]

Yea, ford is doing some wicked sales here in Texas too on the electric. 2000 cash back, 0% apr for 60 months. The lowest one i found was for $36,316 while there are no texas incentives, you still get the gov tax incentive for $7,500.

 

[shikataganai]

Anyone in the Tri-State area looking to buy a new-old-stock 2012 Focus Electric? Syosset Ford-Lincoln (in Syosset, NY, in western Long Island), with which I'm unaffiliated, just offered to sell me one $29.9k + TTL. 60 mo @ 0% APR financing through Ford to boot, too.

That's right: under $30k pre tax credit, on a brand new, untitled vehicle. Specific numbers on the deal are invoice - $8,200. It's a black 2012 model with leather that I've seen in the showroom dating back to last winter, so they've been paying floorplan on it for over a year, explaining their desperation…

http://www.syossetfordlincoln.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . The sales guy I was dealing with is John Mikutel.

(In other news, anyone bored and looking to read my review of the car itself can do so here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115479414905422234350/posts/UYgywuZBXm7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

 

[Volusiano]

Anyone in the Tri-State area looking to buy a new-old-stock 2012 Focus Electric? Syosset Ford-Lincoln (in Syosset, NY, in western Long Island), with which I'm unaffiliated, just offered to sell me one $29.9k + TTL. 60 mo @ 0% APR financing through Ford to boot, too.

That's right: under $30k pre tax credit, on a brand new, untitled vehicle. Specific numbers on the deal are invoice - $8,200. It's a black 2012 model with leather that I've seen in the showroom dating back to last winter, so they've been paying floorplan on it for over a year, explaining their desperation…

http://www.syossetfordlincoln.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . The sales guy I was dealing with is John Mikutel.

(In other news, anyone bored and looking to read my review of the car itself can do so here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115479414905422234350/posts/UYgywuZBXm7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

That's an unbelievable price. At that price I may be willing to forgo my deal-breaker #1 on the FFE: lack of trunk space. Unfortunately there are 2 deal-breakers with the FFE for me: the second one is the lack of a QC port. No BEV should be without a QC port. That one I cannot forgo.

 

[Valdemar]

That's an unbelievable price. At that price I may be willing to forgo my deal-breaker #1 on the FFE: lack of trunk space. Unfortunately there are 2 deal-breakers with the FFE for me: the second one is the lack of a QC port. No BEV should be without a QC port. That one I cannot forgo.

My thoughts exactly, especially with the recent QC installs at dealerships.

 

[hill]

are there any approved 208V tri-phase connectors for public use?

I'd be happy using the 17kW stations already here .

"It is the first electric vehicle capable of being charged at any power level up to 43kW "

Chameleon charger

OK I missed this a year ago. Can someone 'splane this one?

"... battery can be charged in approximately one hour at 22kW fast-charge stations which are technically simpler and more economical than current fast-charge stations ..."

that phrase is from cleanmpg, here:
(#4 highlight)
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/printthread.php?t=43055" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HOW is it more economical ... or are they just talking theory

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[cwerdna]

http://insideevs.com/new-ford-focus-electric-leasing-program-rivals-nissan-leaf/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is reporting on the much more competitive lease prices. I'm guessing we'll see a FFE sales increase...

 

[Herm]

HOW is it more economical ... or are they just talking theory
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A high power 43kW AC charging station is a lot cheaper than a DC charger such as a chademo.. way way cheaper.

 

[edatoakrun]

HOW is it more economical ... or are they just talking theory
.

A high power 43kW AC charging station is a lot cheaper than a DC charger such as a chademo.. way way cheaper.

The vast majority of all BEV charging will always be done slowly and overnight, producing lower costs for the BEV driver per kWh, and longer battery life. And as BEV battery pack kWh capacities increase, so will the percentage of all charging that is done at "home".

So, when the fast charging infrastructure is built out, and when there are millions of BEVs on Americas roads, you will should only need ~one charger for every ~100 BEVs, to produce reliable fast charging on all major highways, for all BEV drivers.

So, unless on-board fast chargers cost ~1% as much as stationary ones, it will be more expensive to put them in every BEV, rather than at stationary locations.

 

[Valdemar]

HOW is it more economical ... or are they just talking theory
.

A high power 43kW AC charging station is a lot cheaper than a DC charger such as a chademo.. way way cheaper.

I'd imagine that a 40kW on-board charger is more expensive than the 3/6kW one, so the consumer needs to pay more upfront, some may not be comfortable with this idea.

 

[ydnas7]

I'd imagine that a 40kW on-board charger is more expensive than the 3/6kW one, so the consumer needs to pay more upfront, some may not be comfortable with this idea.

Renault docs indicate that there is no manufacturing cost difference between having an onboard 43kW charger or just a plain 3kW one. They are reusing the motor and associated circuitry. There is a large development cost

Nobody else is using a motor like Renault though....

 

[surfingslovak]

Renault docs indicate that there is no manufacturing cost difference between having an onboard 43kW charger or just a plain 3kW one. They are reusing the motor and associated circuitry. There is a large development cost

Nobody else is using a motor like Renault though....

Not to take away from Renault, but didn't this idea original with AC Propulsion? Also, the 43 kW figure likely correlates to 3-phase charging, not single-phase, which likely helps simplify the design.

 

[TonyWilliams]

Renault docs indicate that there is no manufacturing cost difference between having an onboard 43kW charger or just a plain 3kW one. They are reusing the motor and associated circuitry. There is a large development cost

Nobody else is using a motor like Renault though....

Not to take away from Renault, but didn't this idea original with AC Propulsion? Also, the 43 kW figure likely correlates to 3-phase charging, not single-phase, which likely helps simplify the design.

What I like is most DC chargers will be supplied with 3 phase, so putting a receptacle for the Chameleon charger would be fairly simple.

Does anybody know how the pilot signal (if any?) works?