Desertstraw said:
DaveinOlyWA said:
now this is good for a one stop charge on a 500 mile trip. ok , ya i can see that and that should cover about ½ of 1% of the trips made.
I really do not understand you. With a 300 mile range, almost all trips are covered by the overnight charge, e.g. I could do a round trip between Phoenix and Tucson in one day. What is left is long trips, e.g. cross country trips, something I have done a number of times. It is my experience that anything over 500 miles in one day is next to impossible without several drivers. Yes there are always exceptions, I once did 800 miles. The essential point is that if the Envia claim holds up, for all real purposes an electric car will do anything that an ICE car can do, and better.
ya, i see that.
lets take a poll. how many 300+ mile trips has anyone taken in the past 30 days?
or past 3 months?
my point is need verses what we willing to pay for. you might be in the position where you can sell all your cars, pay a big time premium and be a 100% electric household.
i am not nor is most of the world and this is not beyond the manufacturers of these electric cars either. it is quite frankly cheaper to build a charging network.
i know that does not sound valid but it is. for 230 million, we are getting 15,000 L2 and 310 L3 (at least that is the rumor) think of what half the annual oil subsidy would get us?
you want technology that we quite frankly do not have. charging technology is already here now (well, not nearby since closest QC for me is 119.3 miles ...ya, i have thought about it...)
so, ok. talk about what can be done TOMORROW...but i am driving a Leaf TODAY. i want something done today. not 5 years from now.
**edit** and another thing.
right now there are most of 310 L3 stations up for grabs right now for any business willing to donate 2 fricking parking spaces. the project will pay for installation, electricity used, and 100% of all expenses for the first 3 years.
so why is the rollout so slow. it is because of negativity, uncertainity and the lack of synergy between Nissan, PUD's, dealerships AND Owners
even we cannot agree on charging. do you not think others read this forum and sense a lot of apprehension between owners??
how many interested people are being turned away from our comments that to be honest with ya, do not seem very positive?