DANandNAN said:
smkettner said:
At least Nissan's numbers are in motion.
An extremely vocal extremely minor minority.
according to Nissan, the majority of Leaf's sold included the QC port so they made it standard for 2012. many of us got the port for free with participation in the EV project, you know, the project studying the adoption of EV's in the US, the one that requires a CHAdeMO port in order to participate.
In some ways I don't really give a crap what the standard will be, what I do feel strongly about is getting a decent network in place as soon as possible and since the SAE sat on it's hands for years, that means moving forward with what is here now. I don't think Nissan cares as much about what standard is adopted down the line as they do about moving forward now while there is momentum. Throwing the breaks on CHAdeMO and waiting for the SAE standard to work it's way down the pipes will delay the development of a QC network for years. It is critical to get quick charging in place while the EV project is still underway because I believe it will be the DC QC network that will show just how viable EV's are in the study. Right now there is great debate as to whether L2 should be installed everywhere (some even still argue for L1) or whether it's L3 that is the key to public infrastructure... we need to find out which combination of L2 and L3 is the best use of resources by studying use patterns, before and after each are introduced and we have that opportunity now. Regardless of the standard, getting the network up and running will be very crucial to determining what is needed and replicated across the country, using whatever standard is then agreed upon. Some potential waste now will provide very useful information needed to improve efficient use of resources going forward. the biggest challenge to QC installs is finding willing parties and having adequate power supply. Mass produced charging stations in the future will bring down the price point and if a new standards wins out it will be relatively inexpensive to retrofit or replace the old stations. Honestly, the money being thrown at this is peanuts compared to what we spend defending oil interests abroad, subsidizing big oil and gas car manufacturers here at home. If you need a cause and want to get worked up about waste, dig a little into defense contracts, everything spent on EV's is jump change in comparison. EV's offer the prospects of energy independence which is critical to national security.