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LeftieBiker said:
You know, GRA, every time you start a new topic an angel loses a toe...


Maybe so, but you've got to admit there's been a spate of recent posts here that have little or nothing to do with the topic, and are mostly or solely political in nature, not to mention containing ad hominem attacks on other posters. So, as a mod feel free to declutter here and move any of those over to the other topic, to keep this one more on point.
 
It isn't so much that you started a topic that was needed. It's using the word "declutter" I guess...

I hereby request that any available Mod move any OT political posts to the Trump Topic, as I am not feeling well tonight. Oh, and mind all the toes scattered about...
 
Looks like the who walked back their "lack of asymptomatic transmission talk", man that was quick.

Just be prepaid to contract trumpvirus.
You're not going to hide for 2 more years unless you are an elderly pensioner.
 
Hospital officials warn of COVID-19 increase in Arizona
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/hospital-officials-warn-of-covid-19-increase-in-arizona

Texas sees record number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 for third day in a row
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article243424981.html

(Texas) Med Center sees uptick in COVID-19 patients in ICUs; warns if trend continues, capacity could be exceeded in 2 weeks
https://www.click2houston.com/health/2020/06/05/med-center-sees-uptick-in-covid-19-patients-in-icus-warns-if-trend-continues-capacity-could-be-exceeded-in-2-weeks/

Multiple Houston Restaurants Close Again as Workers Contract COVID-19
More than five eateries have been forced to close their doors temporarily after Gov. Abbott allowed restaurants to reopen
https://houston.eater.com/2020/6/10/21285996/houston-restaurants-closed-temporarily-employees-positive-covid-19-coronavirus

Downtown (Dallas) Breakfast Restaurant Didn’t Close After Employee Tested Positive for COVID-19
Yolk continued to serve diners, and allegedly failed to notify its employees that one of their co-workers had contracted the virus
https://dallas.eater.com/2020/6/8/21284107/yolk-dallas-arts-district-employee-tests-positive-covid-19-coronavirus

Vegas re-opened. Other than employees, almost nobody is wearing a mask in this video. :(
https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1269169419998990336?s=20 - oh boy... Let's see what happens in about 2 weeks. How many of these visitors caught COVID-19 and brought it home w/them?
 
Oilpan4 said:
...Just be prepaid to contract trumpvirus.

Concordantly, be prepared for more anti-contagion measures. It would be illogical to expect impact without response.
 
Treasury Secretary Mnuchin says ‘we can’t shut down the economy again’
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/11/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-says-we-cant-shut-down-the-economy-again.html

Well, gee.... if the initial response was handled better (see South Korea, New Zealand, Taiwan, for example), we wouldn't have this problem. I think we're going to be stuck with 500 to 1000+ deaths/day in the US from COVID-19 until there's a better treatment(s) and/or a vaccine.
 
California health official resigns after receiving threats
https://www.ksbw.com/article/orange-county-health-officer-quits-after-threats-mask-order/32814601
SANTA ANA, Calif. — A high-ranking public health official for Southern California's Orange County has resigned after receiving threats over her order for residents to wear face coverings when near others in public to protect against the coronavirus.

Dr. Nichole Quick, the county's health officer, left her job late Monday, said Jessica Good, a spokeswoman for the county health care agency.
...
DeBurgh said residents also took a banner depicting Quick as a Nazi to a public meeting and held protests outside her home.
Face masks no longer required in Orange County as more businesses like gyms get OK to reopen
https://abc7.com/orange-county-coronavirus-mask-oc-masks-health-officer-resigns/6243230/
 
LeftieBiker said:
If only it were just those assholes who got the virus. But no, it will mainly be innocent people who go on ventilators and maybe die.

Leftie, you hit the nail on the head. They don't give a rats a$$ who they contaminate. They only care about themselves.
Here on the big island, everyone wears masks, by Hawaii county law you have to to go into any business.
Masks suck but I do not want to be responsible for someone dying from my negligence.

My parents live in Redding CA they are 90 and 92. When my dad goes out he cant understand why people are not wearing masks.
A portion of people in this country really suck.

Stay safe.
 
I was wrong about hydroxychloroquine, it totally kills people. You guys were totally right.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/lancet-formally-retracts-fake-hydroxychloroquine-study-used-by-media-to-attack-trump/ar-BB152Rwt
 
The contributors of the primary sources of the information used in the study have refused to share it for peer review. The authors had to retract it because they can't get it peer reviewed without that information being released. It remains true that the drug has shown no effectiveness against COVID 19, and it remains true that the drug can cause life-threatening or fatal side effects. It also remains true that Trump's insane ramblings about "very powerful light" and “And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute — one minute — and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?” have resulted in the death of at least one person, and many more emergency room visits and poison hotline calls.

Your apology is accepted.
 
^^^
Indeed, someone at my work posted either https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/04/covid-19-lancet-retracts-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials or https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine. The company Surgisphere appears to be sketchy.
 
LeftieBiker said:
The contributors of the primary sources of the information used in the study have refused to share it for peer review. The authors had to retract it because they can't get it peer reviewed without that information being released. It remains true that the drug has shown no effectiveness against COVID 19, and it remains true that the drug can cause life-threatening or fatal side effects. It also remains true that Trump's insane ramblings about "very powerful light" and “And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute — one minute — and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?” have resulted in the death of at least one person, and many more emergency room visits and poison hotline calls.

Your apology is accepted.

If they won't submit for peer review, then it likely wasn't scientific and they know it won't be reproducible.
Who died?
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/fda-revokes-emergency-use-of-hydroxychloroquine.html

The agency determined the drugs were “unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA.”

“Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and other serious side effects, the known and potential benefits of CQ and HCQ no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for the authorized use,” the FDA wrote in its notice Monday.
 
If it's so dangerous why do they give it to people for malaria who have almost no chance of contracting malaria?
 
Oilpan4 said:
If it's so dangerous why do they give it to people for malaria who have almost no chance of contracting malaria?

As usual you misunderstand and mischaracterize everything and then sit in marvelous indignation about it not making sense.

As you no doubt have realized the FDA are Communist sympathizers who are intent on corrupting our precious bodily fluids.
 
Trump says 'I don't kid' after aides argue he was joking about slowing coronavirus testing
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-kid-aides-argue-joking-slowing-coronavirus-testing/story?id=71404943

I listened to these stories via the NPR app recently.
How Widespread Coronavirus Testing Helped Meatpacking Plants Slow Outbreaks
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/22/879774584/how-widespread-coronavirus-testing-helped-meatpacking-plants-halt-outbreaks

Huang Hung: How Has China Used Collectivism To Navigate The Pandemic?
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/879753314
YAN CONG: My name’s Yan Cong. I was born and raised in Beijing. I’m right now walking down the street in my neighborhood in Chaoyang District, Beijing.

ZOMORODI: Yan is a photographer. And in her hometown of Beijing, the greater good means following strict pandemic protocols.

CONG: Entering a lot of places still requires different kinds of proof that we’re in good health or we haven’t been to any high-risk areas.

ZOMORODI: So, for example, before she can order a drink at her local bar, Yan has her temperature checked and scans a QR code on her phone.

ZOMORODI: The QR code tells the government where she’s been for the past 14 days. Her phone lights up green, so she can enter. But if her phone had flashed red, indicating that she’d been traveling overseas, Yan would need to report to a state-run quarantine location. If it flashed yellow, meaning she’d been in an infected area, well, that would require her to quarantine at home for two weeks with an electronic sensor installed on the door or paper tape sealing the door shut. Break the tape or activate the sensor and a neighborhood committee alerts the government that she broke the rules.

HUANG HUNG: I told that to my American friends. They’re like, oh, my God. How can you live with that? That so infringes on everything that we believe in, in individual rights and so on and so forth.

ZOMORODI: This is Huang Hung. She’s been called the Oprah Winfrey of China.

HUNG: I’m a writer. I’m a columnist in China. I - most of my writing are in Chinese. However, I am actually a U.S. citizen. And I’ve been living in China since 1991, so for quite some time. So, you know, I walk into a shopping mall and I have to say I’m glad. I feel safer that there is a scanning system. It is for the greater good. The Chinese kind of realize in time of crisis, it is necessary to bound together. And whatever inconvenience happens, you need to be able to tolerate it. You need to work with other people. You need to support the collective rather than just think for yourself.
I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRol8Rn2WMM in the Quibi app. They said that it tore thru their team (60 in 6), ultimately infecting 16 people. They got their positive test results in early March in NY.
A behind the scenes look at how '60 in 6' became one of the first known COVID-19 clusters of the pandemic. As cases in New York City exploded, our staff learned firsthand about the struggle for testing, treatment and answers.
They said by March 7th, 7 staffers were sick.
 
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