Update on Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement

[harrier]

I looked at your map - there are none in Northern California, and all of the links in SoCal are for home battery sellers. Are they also leaf battery people?

I have a 2011 that is is perfect condition with 34 mile range and would be perfectly happy to pay for a larger pack with full capacity, but it it seems really hard to find.

 

[alozzy]

@harrier From an old post of yours, it looks like you live in Marin County, CA. If you're still living there, you should reach out to jbsocdelica on these forums, who lives in SoCal, as that person recently had a 2011 LEAF upgraded to a 62 kWh pack for $9K

https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=27600&p=595314#p595314

jbsocdelica mentions that "Pavel" in LA did the upgrade and also sourced the battery pack. Also mentioned in another post is that "Pavel" is willing to come to you to do perform the upgrades.

 

[MikeinPA]

Saw this today--it is an after market-module. First after-market module?

 

[Stanton]

Saw this today--it is an after market-module. First after-market module?

If true, I think it would be (not manufactured by Nissan). It certainly looks to be similar in size/shape to the latest generation module (the one in the Gen2 Leaf). One thing's for sure: finding a replacement module was as difficult as doing the work (at least for me)...and this was last year (I think availability has only gotten worse). In fact, I had to purchase a used module (got a good one) because I couldn't get a new one from Nissan!

 

[MikeinPA]

Stanton,

I am more interested in the arrival of entire sets of modules for the purpose of rebuilding the Leaf packs. Leaf is unusual in that the pack is designed to be fully serviceable; also, in having such a small capacity pack. It is logical to me that a set of new modules in the old can would be a cost effective way to keep these Leaf's on the road. How many nearly expired 2011-2012 machine are out there--just lacking some new modules?

 

[bocarat]

One is advertised local to me right now for $2800 with a 20 mile usable range.

I just sold my 2013 with lizard pack and 104k miles - range was down to about 70 miles. Battery pack replaced 5 years ago at 55k or so under warranty by previous owner. I will likely get a 2017-2019 Bolt with brand new batteries and warranty next

 

[cwerdna]

Can we maybe continue/move this aftermarket discussion to another thread? The OP was about purchasing genuine Nissan replacement 24 kWh packs, their price, it being a "lizard" pack, fitment in '11 and '12, etc.

 

[electricfuture]

I am not sure about the battery price. My 2011 Leaf with a 2012 Lizard battery is down 4 bars , 42% SOC so I contacted the dealership and Nissan this is what I learned. First you MUST first bring the car into an authorized Nissan dealership to have your battery evaluated. Next they will send the report to Nissan. Nissan will then inform them as to the battery cost. Labor and mounting brackets are extra. As you know the dealership can charge whatever they want in markup, so it may not be what battery cost rumors are saying. I am bring my Leaf to a local dealership tomorrow for the evaluation. I will post the results here.

 

[Jnovoseljr]

When I had the traction battery replaced in my 2011 (8 SOH bars @ 115,000), it was approximately $2,800 installed (my contribution) in 2017. The only mod they did was to change out the mounting brackets, as the newer 24kWH batteries mounted slightly differently. The cost of the battery without installation at that time was $5,500.

Now, I will tell you that it was a fight with Nissan's corporate customer service to get that work done for that price. I also remember that Nissan's final decision to help me teetered on that battery evaluation.

As far as the dealer's markup, it is obviously good business to make money. However, you owe it to yourself to ask if you can get a discount (even 10% helps). My local dealer does all of the work on both of my Leafs, so I do get a blanket discount on work performed. It does not hurt to at least ask!

I hope that helps you some.....

 

[Joeaverage]

When I had the traction battery replaced in my 2011 (8 SOH bars @ 115,000), it was approximately $2,800 installed (my contribution) in 2017. The only mod they did was to change out the mounting brackets, as the newer 24kWH batteries mounted slightly differently. The cost of the battery without installation at that time was $5,500.

Now, I will tell you that it was a fight with Nissan's corporate customer service to get that work done for that price. I also remember that Nissan's final decision to help me teetered on that battery evaluation.

As far as the dealer's markup, it is obviously good business to make money. However, you owe it to yourself to ask if you can get a discount (even 10% helps). My local dealer does all of the work on both of my Leafs, so I do get a blanket discount on work performed. It does not hurt to at least ask!

I hope that helps you some.....

For a moment, just a moment I thought charging stations come with vacuum service too.

 

[Jnovoseljr]

 

[electricfuture]

I took my Leaf to a nearby Nissan dealership in Orlando, Fl and after mush explaining they checked the battery and sent a report to Nissan in Japan. The Parts Dept. told me that the price of the battery as quoted by Nissan Japan after they received the required evaluation done at the dealership for a 24KWH Lizard battery is $20,391. Installation by the dealership was an additional $937. So the total replacement cost for an in-kind battery is $21,328! A 2024 Nissan Leaf with twice the range is $28,140.

I will try to contact Nissan to ask WHY???

Plan B is a 40KWH battery from Greentec quotes as follows; Has anyone worked with them?

Greentec is quoting:

24 kWh Remanufactured Battery $6,500 plus $1000 installation.​

• Re-built with ≥ 70% SoH battery modules.
• 55-65 Mile range with 3.5 Miles/kWh energy economy (Range dependent on driving style)
• SoH bars will not be reset. Can be as low as 8 bars.
• 24 Months workmanship warranty, unlimited mileage
• 6 month/11,000 mile range warranty no less than 8 bars*

40 kWh Remanufactured Battery $11,000 plus $1000 installation.​

• Re-built with ≥ 85% SoH battery modules.
• 100-130 Mile range with 3.5 Miles/kWh energy economy (Range dependent on driving style)
• Can Bridge for range correction installed, side effects described below
• Will be reset to full 12 bars capacity, we anticipate 1-2 bars to diminish quickly
• 36 month workmanship warranty, unlimited mileage
• 12 month/20,000 miles range warranty, no more than 3 bar loss*

Warranty: 24-36 months, unlimited mileage and the original service purchased for Nissan Leaf battery replacement.

Gen 2 Leaf: 24 - 36 Month Battery Failure Warranty Description:​

* Battery capacity will not be warrantied if more than one QC (DC Quick Charge) per month of elapsed warranty is performed. QC is known to degrade the battery and we cannot guarantee any range if the QC is abused.

Gen 2 CAN Bridge side effects:​

• Charge indicator on the screen might have one bar missing after a full charge.
• During charge, 3 blue indicating lights won't progress to full, only one light blinking the whole time.
• While on charge, mileage on screen will not update if you turn the ignition on. To see how much range has been added, you need to unplug the charger and then turn the car on.
• Motor Power is Limited (Turtle Light) might turn on as the range gets below 30 miles or if the battery is getting hot.
• The CAN Bridge recalculates range each time the car is shut off, don't be alarmed if there is a difference in range from when you parked the car and restarted it a few minutes later.
• Range indicator will start off high and get more accurate as it decreases.

 

[Lokaim]

You could buy a used LEAF for less.

 

[Stanton]

You could buy a used LEAF for less.

...but not one with a 40kWh (or larger) battery pack. Not saying that used Leaf's are an option (and sometimes a great deal), but there are many paths to upgrading (like I have).

 

[crimsona]

...but not one with a 40kWh (or larger) battery pack. Not saying that used Leaf's are an option (and sometimes a great deal), but there are many paths to upgrading (like I have).

Orlando zip code

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...ius=200&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=2018

I count 10 for under 13K that are 2018+ with 40 kWh batteries, and another 9 between 13-14K

In addition, you could sell off your old vehicle for additional funds towards a new one.