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Which is perfect for roadtripping where the built-in Route Planner knows you are stopping at Superchargers (waypoints).EVDRIVER wrote:Wow! Not quite LEAF speed but fast. The irony is Tesla needs to heat its pack to charge faster while Nissan needs to cool it to charge faster.
I don't know what specifically because I don't work for Tesla nor have inside knowledge. My point is that increasing the max cell voltage (as you suggested as an authoritative test) is not the only method by which they could extend the range (and keep in mind, I agree with you that this is probably more a sleight of hand/code than an actual range increase). In fact, increasing the max cell voltage is probably somewhat down the list since there is probably little headroom and that would probably be the most risky method to use.SageBrush wrote:What, specifically ? Certainly not cell discharge below 2.6V.lpickup wrote:They could be allowing a deeper discharge. They could have tweaked something to make the drivetrain more efficient.
And why would it not extend to the AWD or Tesla MR ?
SageBrush wrote:But then you get to spend that amount *again* in 8 years. And at least for the first 8 years you have a hobbled car that is only good for local duties.golfcart wrote: The more I look at the budget the more the 2018 SV fire sale looks like the way to go... It's enough range under warranty for 8 years and I don't have to spend $1500 to get a color I like.
I don't see the value.
Not as true as it once was. Seeing 40 kwh packs dropping charge like crazy while accelerating uphill on very cold days only to regain that power on the downslope. IOW; SOC (yeah not a typo...) going from 60 to 20 to 55%...EVDRIVER wrote:Wow! Not quite LEAF speed but fast. The irony is Tesla needs to heat its pack to charge faster while Nissan needs to cool it to charge faster.
Sounds like yet another BMS bug.DaveinOlyWA wrote:Not as true as it once was. Seeing 40 kwh packs dropping charge like crazy while accelerating uphill on very cold days only to regain that power on the downslope. IOW; SOC (yeah not a typo...) going from 60 to 20 to 55%...EVDRIVER wrote:Wow! Not quite LEAF speed but fast. The irony is Tesla needs to heat its pack to charge faster while Nissan needs to cool it to charge faster.
Is "emerging" the PC way to say POS when discussing the LEAF ? Because I assure you, my Tesla is a wonderful car today and I expect it to be a wonderful car in 8 years.DaveinOlyWA wrote:SageBrush wrote:But then you get to spend that amount *again* in 8 years. And at least for the first 8 years you have a hobbled car that is only good for local duties.golfcart wrote: The more I look at the budget the more the 2018 SV fire sale looks like the way to go... It's enough range under warranty for 8 years and I don't have to spend $1500 to get a color I like.
I don't see the value.
I don't see the desire to keep an 8 year old car that is part of emerging technology. I guess we all have a blind side.
Right, opposite ends of the spectrum.DaveinOlyWA wrote:Not as true as it once was. Seeing 40 kwh packs dropping charge like crazy while accelerating uphill on very cold days only to regain that power on the downslope. IOW; SOC (yeah not a typo...) going from 60 to 20 to 55%...EVDRIVER wrote:Wow! Not quite LEAF speed but fast. The irony is Tesla needs to heat its pack to charge faster while Nissan needs to cool it to charge faster.
That would hardly surprise me. The BMS/LBC is crap.WetEV wrote:Sounds like yet another BMS bug.DaveinOlyWA wrote:Not as true as it once was. Seeing 40 kwh packs dropping charge like crazy while accelerating uphill on very cold days only to regain that power on the downslope. IOW; SOC (yeah not a typo...) going from 60 to 20 to 55%...EVDRIVER wrote:Wow! Not quite LEAF speed but fast. The irony is Tesla needs to heat its pack to charge faster while Nissan needs to cool it to charge faster.