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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:32 am

DannyAmes wrote:Solar panel in the rear is dumb! Get rid of it unless it could to something more useful like power an exhaust fan on hot days.
Yes, its value is limited, but as we've speculated elsewhere, it might actually help to extend the life of the 12 V lead acid accessory battery by keeping it topped up. If nothing else, it looks sort of cool. Now, covering the entire roof with thin film solar would be truly cool even if economically questionable.
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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:35 am

abasile wrote:Tesla Model S covers the rooftop with solar; now that's truly cool even if economically questionable.
No, you are probably thinking of Fisker Karma, not Tesla Model S.

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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:36 am

TEG wrote:
abasile wrote:Tesla Model S covers the rooftop with solar; now that's truly cool even if economically questionable.
No, you are probably thinking of Fisker Karma, not Tesla Model S.
You're right. I caught myself and edited the post, but a tad too late. :mrgreen:
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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:28 am

TEG wrote:Dislikes:
... Headlight housings look too strange sticking out so much ...
I thought that they protruded to deflect air around the side mirrors and reduce drag...besides, it's about the only distinctive feature the car has.
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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:58 pm

This picture shows the solar cells in better detail, what solar cells?

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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:09 pm

TEG wrote:Dislikes:
Basically no available CHAdeMO public charging locations
Headlight housings look too strange sticking out so much
White interior (too easy to show stains) should be dark gray
They're coming soon! We just had two installed in Phoenix!
If you don't know the reason for the bulbous headlight housings, it's for lower wind noise. So the question is: Would you rather have housings that don't stick out so much OR more wind noise? I choose less wind noise.
The LEAF's interior is light gray even though it may look white and I agree could be darker. But seat covers take care of most of it.
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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:12 pm

Likes: smooth, comfortable, reliable

Dislikes:
The SMRD (silly miles remaining display) should be replaced with an accurate and high resolution state of charge indicator
There should be some feedback to the driver when friction braking is being used.
Lose the silly automatic transmission creep simulation.
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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:21 pm

mckemie wrote: Dislikes:
...
Lose the silly automatic transmission creep simulation.
Don't mean to turn this into a discussion thread (we can start another thread to discuss creep, if there isn't one already) but http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2003/03-12051.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 'explains the whole rationale about "creep" force and directional cueing for a driver' (to steal the verbiage from http://www.techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/ca ... kfarm.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) for hybrids.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Leaf is subject to the above or a similar rule elsewhere in the world.

Perhaps there should be another thread to discuss the points brought up here and to keep this thread clean (only containing likes and dislikes)...

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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:25 pm

Well it's pretty clear that State of Charge (SOC) is high on peoples' lists for improvement. Keep the suggestions coming.
We don't need to start another thread on creep. The idea is to gather the information in one place to make it easy to assemble and present. So if creep is something of a hot topic, discuss away.....
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Re: Nissan LEAF Engineering Team Visit December 3rd

Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:58 pm

My **paramount request** is that Nissan, from a high value marketing and strategic engineering standpoint, thinks of the LEAF as a the basis for an ongoing company customer relationship. In practice, this would include:

Upsells in the form of future battery technology standardized to work in current and future model years
Ongoing software upgrades in performance and information technology
Retrofits of charge points and chargers, and even piloting considering novel ideas like a towable battery pack to enhance range that could be rented from one dealer vendor and dropped at another...

The value of early adopters in launching this technology does not escape NISSAN, and to me, explains the care they took to maintain a relatively low market pricing that resulted in a segment penetration strategy.

Thus, reprogramming of the ECO and D mode, along with using the existing display to provide a true SOC fits this category. Same for the brakes and regen matters... Maybe a sport mode for steering, and sport model in the future

Not mentioned so far is using the LEAF service as a kind of Lojack, that to my knowledge currently is not offered as a part of carwings.

After reading many of the requests and concerns, likes and dislikes, many of these specific requests, ideas, and suggestions fall into such a philosophy that focuses on a longterm customer relationship approach

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