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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:04 pm

Great news. I assume that the "GW" is the CAN bridging device?
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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:49 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:04 pm
Great news. I assume that the "GW" is the CAN bridging device?
Hi, yes , GW=GateWay, the CAN bridge device. To save work for me I bough the T wiring from SA. The battery contact is different between Gen1 and 2. Easiest to buy a T-connector wiring from SA with the contact maching the Gen2 battery. Same contact for all Gen2 types, 24, 30, 40 and 62.
For those with a Gen 2 car you cut some lines and solder the wirings to the GW.

Links bellow to pictures of the dashboard before and w/new battery and the way I installed the GW under the car.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xhnllA ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PguSwN ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jcc52i ... sp=sharing

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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:59 am

leafnor wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:49 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:04 pm
Great news. I assume that the "GW" is the CAN bridging device?
Hi, yes , GW=GateWay, the CAN bridge device. To save work for me I bough the T wiring from SA. The battery contact is different between Gen1 and 2. Easiest to buy a T-connector wiring from SA with the contact maching the Gen2 battery.
I'm confused now: I believe you have a Gen1 Leaf (2012?), but you mention a Gen2 battery with the "T wiring" adapter.
Do you use that adapter "as is" for a Gen1 Leaf? I am a bit worried about mounting the bridge device under the car: is there no room to for a more "weather protected" spot?
I appreciate your post/pics as this is something I'm seriously considering (just need to find someone local to do the work).
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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:10 am

Stanton wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:59 am
leafnor wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:49 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:04 pm
Great news. I assume that the "GW" is the CAN bridging device?
Hi, yes , GW=GateWay, the CAN bridge device. To save work for me I bough the T wiring from SA. The battery contact is different between Gen1 and 2. Easiest to buy a T-connector wiring from SA with the contact maching the Gen2 battery.
I'm confused now: I believe you have a Gen1 Leaf (2012?), but you mention a Gen2 battery with the "T wiring" adapter.
Do you use that adapter "as is" for a Gen1 Leaf? I am a bit worried about mounting the bridge device under the car: is there no room to for a more "weather protected" spot?
I appreciate your post/pics as this is something I'm seriously considering (just need to find someone local to do the work).
Note, all versions (24, 30, 40 and 62) of batteries after Gen1 have the same wiring plug. The CAN plug in a Gen2 car fit to any battery from a Gen2. I have a Gen1, and it have an other plug. Either you need to get the CAN plug from the donor car, and solder your self, or do as I did, buy a T connector with the plug that fit to the new battery in one end, and to the plug on the car in the other end.
I do not see any better place to install it.

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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:51 pm

How much did that cost?
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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:25 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:51 pm
How much did that cost?
The GW from SA $1000, the battery from the salvaged car $4500. I sold the old battery for $1600. My workhouers $0. Total $4600.
The 2012 Leafs similar to mine is sold for $4500-$5500. So the "value" or cost for my 40kWh Leaf Is $9100-10000.
I could have sold my Leaf for $4500, and added $14000 and bought a 2018 40kWh instead. Now I can spend 10000 on something else.

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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:17 am

I had heard their battery interface was going to run $1000, but that was before they had sold any. Didn't know if the final price was higher or lower.
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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:43 am

We install the Muxsan CAN-bridges inside the car instead to lower the risk of water damage, but if the case is properly IP-classified I see no problem with installing it under the car. Just makes for a pricier product.

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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:12 am

Dala wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:43 am
We install the Muxsan CAN-bridges inside the car instead to lower the risk of water damage, but if the case is properly IP-classified I see no problem with installing it under the car. Just makes for a pricier product.
Where exactly do you do it? My guess was that you'd use the under-car channel for wires and mount the actual bridge behind the glovebox (near the TCU) or somewhere similar.

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Re: Vehicules Electrique in Montreal swapping batteries

Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:33 am

coleafrado wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:12 am
Dala wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:43 am
We install the Muxsan CAN-bridges inside the car instead to lower the risk of water damage, but if the case is properly IP-classified I see no problem with installing it under the car. Just makes for a pricier product.
Where exactly do you do it? My guess was that you'd use the under-car channel for wires and mount the actual bridge behind the glovebox (near the TCU) or somewhere similar.
I usually mount them under the cupholders.

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