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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:53 pm

awhile wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:34 pm
My 2016 Leaf SV dropped from 9 to 8 bars last week. I plan to talk to dealership this week and will provide update on the outcome. 71k miles. I use Leaf Spy Pro.
Your car already had the BMS update, right?
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:12 am

awhile wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:34 pm
My 2016 Leaf SV dropped from 9 to 8 bars last week. I plan to talk to dealership this week and will provide update on the outcome. 71k miles. I use Leaf Spy Pro.
Thanks for your post and look forward to your dealership visit update. Your battery held up well compared to our 2016 Leaf SL that lost the 4th bar November 2019 5 weeks after we bought it. Mileage was 24,000 when the 4th bar was lost. Our car had just come off lease and I have no history other than it had lived in the St Louis MISSOURI area.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:33 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:53 pm
Your car already had the BMS update, right?
Yes, vehicle had BMS update in August 2018 prior to my purchase. Plus, I had annual EV Battery Usage Report done at dealership November 2019 where they also applied the "recall - P9312 - leaf battery plate NTB19055"

Detail:
I have record from previous owner for work done at Nissan dealership on 08/30/18 that has this entry:

Mileage 61641

PERFORM RECALL
PC630 LEAF 30KW BATTERY NTB18-039
OPEN RECALL
REPROGRAMMED LIBC
2016 Leaf SV purchased 10/2018 with 62k miles. Manufactured 10/2015 with first owner at 8/2016. New 40 kWh replacement battery installed 9/2020 under warranty.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:05 am

Then you should be good to go for a new, probably 40kwh battery - unless you get unlucky and a 30kwh battery is in stock somewhere in your region. Even then, many of the 30kwh packs are very good.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:46 pm

Has anyone had a second battery replacement from Nissan on the 2016 Leaf? My 2016 dropped it’s forth battery bar last week. This is on a replacement battery that was installed in 2018. I’m in Phoenix so the heat is killing the batteries, currently at 69,500 miles. The dealership ordered a replacement battery. I am hoping to get the larger 40 kWh in a week or two.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:14 pm

bakermel1 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:46 pm
Has anyone had a second battery replacement from Nissan on the 2016 Leaf? My 2016 dropped it’s forth battery bar last week. This is on a replacement battery that was installed in 2018. I’m in Phoenix so the heat is killing the batteries, currently at 69,500 miles. The dealership ordered a replacement battery. I am hoping to get the larger 40 kWh in a week or two.
You should get a 40 per release from Nissan back in Jan 2020. We took our 2016 SV in 30 Dec 2019 and got the car back 12 Feb 2020. We bought the off lease Leaf 15 Oct 2019 showing 9 bars with the Nissan dealership stating we would be getting a new battery pack soon. It was showing 21,600 miles. It failed 5 weeks later at 24,000 miles. For our car this was the first replacement. 8 months/10K miles later State Of Health (SOH) is down by 4%.

Maybe a 40 kWh will last longer for you. I have started recharging in the 50%-75% SOC range to keep down the max temp of the pack but now the air temps are getting into the 70-50 F range daily. We getting about 150 mile range per charge at 40-60 MPH and 120 miles at 70 MPH and have some over 35K miles on the car now. If I am not going to be driving it my daughter takes it to college, etc.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:27 pm

awhile wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:34 pm
My 2016 Leaf SV dropped from 9 to 8 bars last week. I plan to talk to dealership this week and will provide update on the outcome. 71k miles. I use Leaf Spy Pro.
Dealership checked out battery and confirmed battery due for replacement under warranty. Dealership has no ETA on when Nissan sends out my replacement battery.
2016 Leaf SV purchased 10/2018 with 62k miles. Manufactured 10/2015 with first owner at 8/2016. New 40 kWh replacement battery installed 9/2020 under warranty.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:32 pm

awhile wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:27 pm
awhile wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:34 pm
My 2016 Leaf SV dropped from 9 to 8 bars last week. I plan to talk to dealership this week and will provide update on the outcome. 71k miles. I use Leaf Spy Pro.
Dealership checked out battery and confirmed battery due for replacement under warranty. Dealership has no ETA on when Nissan sends out my replacement battery.
That is good news your claim has been validated. I was told by the shop service writer it was the division office feet dragging that dragged out getting a new battery ordered in my case but a call to the National Rep got things back on tract fast. Keep us posted. Maybe you will get fast service. The Nissan dealership had never replaced a battery before mine.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:21 am

GaleHawkins wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:32 pm
awhile wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:27 pm
awhile wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:34 pm
My 2016 Leaf SV dropped from 9 to 8 bars last week. I plan to talk to dealership this week and will provide update on the outcome. 71k miles. I use Leaf Spy Pro.
Dealership checked out battery and confirmed battery due for replacement under warranty. Dealership has no ETA on when Nissan sends out my replacement battery.
That is good news your claim has been validated. I was told by the shop service writer it was the division office feet dragging that dragged out getting a new battery ordered in my case but a call to the National Rep got things back on tract fast. Keep us posted. Maybe you will get fast service. The Nissan dealership had never replaced a battery before mine.
After losing the fourth bar, what kind of tests does the dealership on the battery to check if it is eligible to be replaced or not? Thanks.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:58 am

ac19 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:21 am
After losing the fourth bar, what kind of tests does the dealership on the battery to check if it is eligible to be replaced or not? Thanks.


Here are snippets of text messages I received from dealership:
we performed the battery usage report, you are eligible for a battery replacement.
The dealership first checked it out and said it looks like it's eligible. Perhaps they ran the Annual EV Battery Usage report. BTW I had that run in November 2019.

Then dealership said they needed to have a "certified Leaf technician" look at it to confirm.

Then later the same day:
Good news! After our diagnostic, we did not find anything else wrong with the vehicle that caused the battery to fail. We sent in our findings with Nissan and the battery has been approved to be replaced under warranty.
I assume the second snippet is result from certified Leaf technician.
2016 Leaf SV purchased 10/2018 with 62k miles. Manufactured 10/2015 with first owner at 8/2016. New 40 kWh replacement battery installed 9/2020 under warranty.

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