adric22
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The excerpt from the WSJ seems to tie the new battery to the LEAF.DarkStar said:Yeah, the article doesn't even indicate that Ghosn is referring to a new battery for the Leaf, just a new battery. Maybe this one will be used in their commercial vehicle division? Who knows!
Nubo said:Time will tell. Since they say they have a better battery coming online, it would be great to see it be the battery they go with in their giant battery plant in TN on day 1.
Maybe Nissan will turn those frowns :x upside-down .
This would bring the Leaf battery the same chemistry that Tesla is using in the ModelS. It greatly improves the energy density, but I'm not sure it does anything for the temperature limitations, and we would still likely need to have a temperature control system installed in the Leaf for warm climate areas like Phoenix. ModelS has one installed in every pack they sell (regardless of destination). Lets hope that Nissan has been waiting for this announcement before saying anything about the Arizona car issue. Not sure why they needed to wait, but I hope this is why and we will soon have some answers.The second generation battery he is referring to is, in all likelihood, the NMC (LiNiMnCo) battery AESC first starting working on when the joint venture was formed in 2009.
This 2nd gen battery using a lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxide cathode can offer about 75% more energy capacity over the standard chemistry (LiMnO2) currently used in the Nissan LEAF, and is thought to be only slightly more expensive to produce.
Well, my thought has always been that depending on Nissan for a battery upgrade was sketchy, but that 3rd party vendors will have an adapted solution of future current technology to replace my current battery when the time arrives.... Furthermore, I never vested any reliance on a long range capability, figuring I'd just rent a vehicle for that rare need. Obviously, this is my own unique situation, and others have differing parameter limits.camasleaf said:When? What YM 2013, 2014, 2015? How much better?
Still too many questions unanswered.
Early adopter. Suck it.
DaveinOlyWA said:so this could take the LEAF from 85 miles to 150 miles? if it was offered as upgrade for CURRENT LEAFs, how much would people pay for that?
LTLFTcomposite said:You gotta love the reply posted by Bob to Pete McWade's pining for an upgrade.
Early adopter. Suck it.
Hey Bob, i am LEAF #258 or first in WA State to take delivery. today is my 20th month anniversary of ownership. i have driven 21,500 miles, still have 98.9% of my original battery capacity left and have saved over $2000 in fuel costs. I Suck it GOOD!!
adric22 said:http://www.chargedevs.com/content/news-wire/post/ghosn-makes-it-official-leaf-will-get-better-battery
DaveinOlyWA said:..., i am LEAF #258 or first in WA State to take delivery. today is my 20th month anniversary of ownership. i have driven 21,500 miles, still have 98.9% of my original battery capacity left and have saved over $2000 in fuel costs. ...
camasleaf said:DaveinOlyWA said:..., i am LEAF #258 or first in WA State to take delivery. today is my 20th month anniversary of ownership. i have driven 21,500 miles, still have 98.9% of my original battery capacity left and have saved over $2000 in fuel costs. ...
Yesterday was my 15th month anniversary of ownership. I am also at 21500 miles. I do not have GID meter (I am willing to rent one for a week), but on Sunday I drove 68 miles (mixed flat, hills, freeway, city) from 80% to 3 miles after LBW at 5.4 m/KWh average (80s outside, 5 to 6 TB). So I can say the degradation is minimal. Saved over $3000 on gas compared to my old car.
I wanted to reply to the guy, but the work browser does not allow it. Thanks Dave for doing it.
mdh said:I think Nissan is hurting themselves by not being overt by telling people that they will be offering an aggressive battery refresh program. If this happened, the value of these cars would rock and it would build reoccurring revenue for Nissan and customer loyalty.
I think they have already done a pretty good job of that with their claims about battery life. How much more could they really "improve"? :evil:DaveinOlyWA said:sometimes i wish they would be more like American companies who over promise and under deliver.
Stoaty said:I think they have already done a pretty good job of that with their claims about battery life. How much more could they really "improve"? :evil:DaveinOlyWA said:sometimes i wish they would be more like American companies who over promise and under deliver.
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