Roadburner440
Well-known member
First I'd like to say it was a very positive experience. Ironically the whole thing with the charging seems to be a whole misunderstanding... Either way they were friendly and knowledgable when we went back up there. I called seeing if they had any 2012 SV's coming in, and that is when I was informed that the process does not work that way.
So they gave us the 2011 Demo for a couple hours, and we put about 30 some odd miles on it. My first observation after a lot of reading on here is the GOM was not acting the way described on here. I find it to be very comparative to my Volt. If anything that Leaf was under estimating its range, as we started with 100% charge and about 86 miles, and we went all the way from the dealer to Jefferson Ave and back with the car still showing about 55 miles range when we got back to the dealer. This was with most of the drive being on I-64 at 55-65mph. Either way the car is impressive. Not as powerful as the Volt, and it does not quite have the handling finesse (in my mind GM was aiming more for ricer compact with the Volt, and not efficient family vehicle like the Leaf so this is what I expected). Me and my wife both like the car..
So this brings me to my next question. I spent HOURS on here last night trying to decifer the lease information. EV Now seems to be the expert on this subject, but there seems to be a lot of variation. The dealer wanted us to buy that particular car yesterday (it is not due to come off demo till early March), but they were willing to sell it early to get it off their books I presume. I resisted doing so as I did not know a whole lot about the NMAC lease.
With the Volt we put $2500 down, which included first month payment, security deposit, and all that jazz. Reading on here I see I would not have a security deposit, but a "disposition fee" of about the same amount when I turn the car in (about $400). The car we would be trading in is a Prius. It is worth more than we owe, but that is between me and the dealer. Either way to make it worth our while I would like to reduce our payment over that (it is currently $448) to about the mid $300's ($350-$380 ideally).. I kept asking them about down payment like with the Volt, but they keep trying to tell me I may not need any money down. Of course then it gets rolled on the monthly payment. By my own figures to get where I want I would need to put about $3000 down to take care of the taxes, fee's, and first months payment up front.
So to get to why I posted all of this I just need to know if all this even looks feasible for a 2011 demo? We did not get to talking about money. It is a 2011 SL however, and has almost 900 miles on it thanks to us yesterday. I did notice it has not been kept in the best shape, and it does have some noticeable swirls/scratches in the paint (usual areas on black cars behind the door handle, and on the doors).. Will I be held responsible for that at least end, or are the Demo's different? With the Volt I have a GMAC Smart Lease Insurance for $800 they waive up to $5000 in damage, and $200 in over mileage fee's. From what I can see NMAC does not offer something similar, so at the lease end you are at their mercy.
I know this thread will be a duplicate in many. Like I said I spent hours pouring over the stickied threads, and searching yesterday.. Ideally I wanted a 2012 SV with the heated seats and all, but if you guys think I can get an even better deal out of this I will forgo that and try to get this car... I just need to know what to look for on the money factor bit, and all. I have read in a few of your guys thread that they try to jack that number up to make more money.. So I just want to walk in to this situation with all the information I can to get the deal done. Never owned a Nissan. Owned plenty of GM products (and swore I never would again till the Volt, that is their LAST chance with me).. Just looking at my Volt lease vs what you guys talk about though they seem to be very different, and that is ultimately why I am asking these questions. Thanks in advance for any help. Just all my reading on here yesterday has left me with more questions than answers.
So they gave us the 2011 Demo for a couple hours, and we put about 30 some odd miles on it. My first observation after a lot of reading on here is the GOM was not acting the way described on here. I find it to be very comparative to my Volt. If anything that Leaf was under estimating its range, as we started with 100% charge and about 86 miles, and we went all the way from the dealer to Jefferson Ave and back with the car still showing about 55 miles range when we got back to the dealer. This was with most of the drive being on I-64 at 55-65mph. Either way the car is impressive. Not as powerful as the Volt, and it does not quite have the handling finesse (in my mind GM was aiming more for ricer compact with the Volt, and not efficient family vehicle like the Leaf so this is what I expected). Me and my wife both like the car..
So this brings me to my next question. I spent HOURS on here last night trying to decifer the lease information. EV Now seems to be the expert on this subject, but there seems to be a lot of variation. The dealer wanted us to buy that particular car yesterday (it is not due to come off demo till early March), but they were willing to sell it early to get it off their books I presume. I resisted doing so as I did not know a whole lot about the NMAC lease.
With the Volt we put $2500 down, which included first month payment, security deposit, and all that jazz. Reading on here I see I would not have a security deposit, but a "disposition fee" of about the same amount when I turn the car in (about $400). The car we would be trading in is a Prius. It is worth more than we owe, but that is between me and the dealer. Either way to make it worth our while I would like to reduce our payment over that (it is currently $448) to about the mid $300's ($350-$380 ideally).. I kept asking them about down payment like with the Volt, but they keep trying to tell me I may not need any money down. Of course then it gets rolled on the monthly payment. By my own figures to get where I want I would need to put about $3000 down to take care of the taxes, fee's, and first months payment up front.
So to get to why I posted all of this I just need to know if all this even looks feasible for a 2011 demo? We did not get to talking about money. It is a 2011 SL however, and has almost 900 miles on it thanks to us yesterday. I did notice it has not been kept in the best shape, and it does have some noticeable swirls/scratches in the paint (usual areas on black cars behind the door handle, and on the doors).. Will I be held responsible for that at least end, or are the Demo's different? With the Volt I have a GMAC Smart Lease Insurance for $800 they waive up to $5000 in damage, and $200 in over mileage fee's. From what I can see NMAC does not offer something similar, so at the lease end you are at their mercy.
I know this thread will be a duplicate in many. Like I said I spent hours pouring over the stickied threads, and searching yesterday.. Ideally I wanted a 2012 SV with the heated seats and all, but if you guys think I can get an even better deal out of this I will forgo that and try to get this car... I just need to know what to look for on the money factor bit, and all. I have read in a few of your guys thread that they try to jack that number up to make more money.. So I just want to walk in to this situation with all the information I can to get the deal done. Never owned a Nissan. Owned plenty of GM products (and swore I never would again till the Volt, that is their LAST chance with me).. Just looking at my Volt lease vs what you guys talk about though they seem to be very different, and that is ultimately why I am asking these questions. Thanks in advance for any help. Just all my reading on here yesterday has left me with more questions than answers.