Who is driving 2013 Leaf? EPA range is 75 miles!!!

[Stoaty]

Thank you very much, and sorry to send you there. EPA range less than I expected, based on increase in mpge should be 80-81.

Don't forget that the MPGe is based on kwh from the wall. That means if the charger is more efficient, the MPGe will go up, but the range won't be affected.

 

[vrwl]

More pictures later, but as least you have the stickers to mull over

 

[EdmondLeaf]

More pictures later, but as least you have the stickers to mull over

Thank you very much again

 

[IBELEAF]

Laughable but expected epa numbers, maybe next year they will be serious about #1 concern. I would much rather pay a few grand more for more range.

 

[edatoakrun]

Well, probably the the most reasonable and consistent explanation for why the 2013 would have much higher MPGe, and only slightly higher range rating than the 2011-12, would be due to lower available battery capacity in the 2013.

But since it's a government rating program, there's probably another explanation...

 

[TonyWilliams]

I thought Tony Williams accurately predicted 75 miles, using several other numbers that were thrown around as EPA cycles in Japan and such.

Woo Hoo !!!!!!

Yes, I did.

 

[EdmondLeaf]

2013 s and SL Monroney sticker by vrwl in the first post. congrats Tony on your correct prediction.

 

[Spies]

So the EPA rated both chargers as having the same efficiency? Interesting.

 

[evnow]

Well, probably the the most reasonable and consistent explanation for why the 2013 would have much higher MPGe, and only slightly higher range rating than the 2011-12, would be due to lower available battery capacity in the 2013.

No - it could all be the better charger efficiency.

 

[evnow]

Well, probably the the most reasonable and consistent explanation for why the 2013 would have much higher MPGe, and only slightly higher range rating than the 2011-12, would be due to lower available battery capacity in the 2013.

No - it could all be the better charger efficiency.

 

[EdmondLeaf]

So the EPA rated both chargers as having the same efficiency? Interesting.

I was expecting that 3.3 kWh charger will be "special order" on S. None of S on dealer's lot have 3.3 that may explain same 75 mile EPA range on S and SL

 

[lukati]

More pictures later, but as least you have the stickers to mull over

Thank you very much again

+1

 

[Spies]

I was expecting that 3.3 kWh charger will be "special order" on S. None of S on dealer's lot have 3.3 that may explain same 75 mile EPA range on S and SL

I certainly missed that the sticker for the S in the photo has the charge package. I wonder if we will see an S without the charge package anytime soon.

 

[TomT]

So much for all the 2013 purported efficiency and range improvements... A whopping two miles. Of course, to be fair, the 2011/2012 and 2013 numbers may not be directly comparable due to possible changes in the testing regime... I wonder if Nissan will now finally give up on the fanciful 100 mile claims!

 

[vrwl]

Here's the sticker for one of the 2013 Pearl White LEAF SLs they had on the lot:

 

[Reddy]

I blew it. I was expecting 83 mi range.

 

[Jay]

Good stuff, thanks VRWL.

Will put up a post on it now and get the word out!

...as well as give you a hat tip and a linkie to get more people to the forums here of course, (=

 

[vrwl]

Ok, here we go, these are pictures I took of the Pearl White SL:

More room in the back hatch/trunk area now that the charger has been moved to the front:

LOVE THE LEATHER SEATS!!!

New buttons

Not much changed on the steering wheel

Appears to be the same here too:

 

[vrwl]

SL Nav/Stereo

Back Seats

Rear view

Fancy wheels

Completely different under the hood

Left side of motor & charger unit

 

[vrwl]

Down the front side of the motor/charger unit

Side running lights are definitely gone

Lighting up the charging outlets

Key fob now has an automatic charging hatch release button

Tire pressure info

Mfg sticker