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it's probably just Leaf used as a test mule
I remember during Kadota-san's Q&A at Nissan Engineering Team Visit December 3rd, He eluded that “We would see more of the LEAF’s protruding headlights”. Could this be it? For aerodynamics?EricBayArea said:I didn't know where to put this and I didn't want to start a whole new thread, but this showed up in Car and Driver the other day with the title of:
2014 Infiniti Electric Vehicle Spy Photos
This clearly looks like a LEAF and not an Infiniti. Looks like they made the eyes bigger and gave it wheels from a Nissan Maxima.
I think he mean't the leaf's headlight definition on other Nissans.KeiJidosha said:I remember during Kadota-san's Q&A at Nissan Engineering Team Visit December 3rd, He eluded that “We would see more of the LEAF’s protruding headlights”. Could this be it? For aerodynamics?EricBayArea said:I didn't know where to put this and I didn't want to start a whole new thread, but this showed up in Car and Driver the other day with the title of:
2014 Infiniti Electric Vehicle Spy Photos
This clearly looks like a LEAF and not an Infiniti. Looks like they made the eyes bigger and gave it wheels from a Nissan Maxima.
Exactly - this is very common to see on cars during drivetrain development. They very often look like Frankenstein mobiles!TRONZ said:A powertrain mule means that what's under the hood is getting pretty close to the dimensions of what it will likely be and that everything else just needs to get out of the way for now. Manufacturers will wrap a mule in something (anything) suitable as a body. This cars wheelbase/track looks stock so its not a chassis mule but just a powertrain testbed. This is pretty on target for a car thats about 18 months away from orders being taken.
drees said:I am surprised that the car isn't wearing more camo - very often these mules are wearing lots of black/white camo and heavy body cladding.
Hey, you read my mind.smkettner said:I have my Leaf and plan to drive it ten years so I am holding out for the 2022 model.
KJWL said:Tired of waiting in a tier X market, 4 I guess, we bought a quasi-orphan. The demo at Vacaville. Can it be orphaned if it never had parents? So that one is my wife's. I'm now chomping at the bit for my own EV. A Tennessee LEAF? I'd say probably, a 2014. could be something else competitive out by then? I'd say probably not. Plus I'd like to see Nissan rewarded for their pioneering. FWIW, our salesman claimed $5Billion put into the overall effort so far by Nissan. That makes the co$t of every LEAF to date about a quarter million. HA! Yes, I know there's a lot more to it than that, but under even the most wildly favorable accounting, so far they are indeed selling LEAFs at a big lo$$. Mike L.
The only way the price will go down would be the plant in TN going on line. With the phony paper money we have, being printed in the trillions ... it's worth about a penny of its value from 50 years ago. The Japanese would be crazy to accept only $30K fake paper U.S. dollars for a Leaf.edatoakrun said:The price may be lowered significantly only after the $7,500 Federal tax Credit is no longer available.
hill said:The only way the price will go down would be the plant in TN going on line. With the phony paper money we have, being printed in the trillions ... it's worth about a penny of its value from 50 years ago. The Japanese would be crazy to accept only $30K fake paper U.S. dollars for a Leaf.
DaveinOlyWA said:keep in mind; the Leaf is sold in several different countries where the exchange rates are much more favorable. someone reported nearly 200 sold in Denmark or maybe Norway?? (a country in that area,) which is 40% of what was sold in the US in a country 1/10th the size.
jkirkebo said:DaveinOlyWA said:keep in mind; the Leaf is sold in several different countries where the exchange rates are much more favorable. someone reported nearly 200 sold in Denmark or maybe Norway?? (a country in that area,) which is 40% of what was sold in the US in a country 1/10th the size.
It was Norway and we only have 1/62 as many citizens as the US. Currently around 5 million, and Leaf sales seem steady at around 200/month.
None issue. Most companies don't repatriate cash in unfavorable conditions. It's left where it's earned for future investment, until exchange and tax treatment is more favorable, or until it is really really needed. Some companies have barter agreements that allow it's use as well (will you pay me here for a hamburger there).TomT said:It ultimately has to be converted back to Yen regardless for the parent in Japan...
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