-DougWantsALeaf said:At .10/kWh Tesla is selling the power close to cost.
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-DougWantsALeaf said:At .10/kWh Tesla is selling the power close to cost.
DougWantsALeaf said:At .10/kWh Tesla is selling the power close to cost. The station maintenance is a loss.
I believe in next 1-2 years they will sell the network for cash infusion. Maybe keep a couple stations to honor the free supercharging.
-DaveinOlyWA said:Guessing they are not paying normal residential rates so rates are probably a bit lower
mtndrew1 said:I’d wager that Model 3 sales in the US will remain flat or decline slightly in each remaining month of 2019 (YoY) but the strong first half of 2019 as compared to 1H 2018 will still result in a moderate increase in total 2019 Model 3 US deliveries versus 2018.
SageBrush said:-DougWantsALeaf said:At .10/kWh Tesla is selling the power close to cost.
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lorenfb said:mtndrew1 said:I’d wager that Model 3 sales in the US will remain flat or decline slightly in each remaining month of 2019 (YoY) but the strong first half of 2019 as compared to 1H 2018 will still result in a moderate increase in total 2019 Model 3 US deliveries versus 2018.
Very interesting, and wasn't that view noted up-thread?
https://insideevs.com/news/363399/tesla-model-3-paint-fragile/Finnish Goods Inspection Finds Tesla Model 3 Paint Is Soft And Thin
Which leads to peeling and chipping marks after just one month of use.
We thought Tesla Model 3 paint problems were long gone, especially after Tiaan Krige, owner of AP3 Paint Protection Services and a specialist in paint protection, said the problems were probably just a production hiccup. Perhaps, but this hiccup was shipped to Europe and has just been delivered to new owners that are very displeased to notice them. Such as Joni Savolainen.
He received his Tesla Model 3 on March 29 and one month later, on April 29, he started to notice that its paint was wearing off. When he complained about the problems at Tesla’s store, he was just informed that they were not covered by the warranty.
Savolainen was obviously not happy to hear that and asked the Finnish Chamber of Commerce for a goods inspection. According to its website, it consists of “technical audits on goods and services”. And the result was not good for Tesla.
The report states there is incomplete paint around “the front and rear hinges, from the underside of the doors, the A and B pillars”, that the fitting of doors and hatches is “inadequate”, contributing to damage to the paint on door openings. . . .
Thickness tests showed that the paint was not even. In some places, it averaged 106 microns, well below the industry’s average of 110 to 150 microns. But it gets worse. Some areas had just around 70 microns of paint.
The report even claims that in the most affected areas the paint was "well below the lower tolerance range given by the manufacturer".
When it comes to hardness, through a test called Wolff-Wilborn pencil scratch test, with a hardness compared to that of pencils, Savolainen’s Model 3 presented an “F”. The standard is normally 2H or even 3H, which is even harder. . . .
If this was due to rushing things up to deliver Model 3 units in the beginning, Tesla should probably start to address the matter in a better way than saying damages are not covered by warranty. And a friendly one.
Savolainen stresses he is not alone, with around 15 other owners complaining about the same issues. They will probably sue the company for a new car or at least to get a decent paint job. Savolainen has already checked how much it would cost and he was given a € 5,300 quotation. . . .
https://insideevs.com/news/363430/tesla-model-3-battery-tips/Insider Gives Some Battery Charging Tips For The Tesla Model 3
But which are trustworthy and which are not?
It is always better to check the total capacity of the Tesla Model 3 battery pack in percentage than in miles. You should always park it overnight with a 90% charge, at least. These are some of the tips the EVlectric YouTube channel claims to have obtained from a person that helped design the Model 3 battery packs. And these are not spoilers, just the beginning of this story.
It began when the presenter got worried for charging his Model 3 to 100 percent and getting 296 mi of range instead of the normal 310 mi he used to have. This led him to talk to a bunch of people and the insider we mentioned before.
But this is where things get interesting. The EVlectric channel pinned one comment that says at least one of the tips is mumbo jumbo. Here is what Rocco Speranza states:
2:50, 100% false, it is not based on your driving habits, it is based on a fixed efficiency of 242 wh/mi and battery size for the long range model.
Go here if you really want to know how to protect your battery. The 90% note is strictly to keep the BMS calibrated, it DOES wear the battery more doing this.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/battery-degradation-scientifically-explained.153074/
And the mentioned tread brings a very interesting video not only on the Model 3 battery pack, but on all lithium-ion battery packs. . . .
EVDRIVER said:Can you please stop posting links to every silly story, this is a discussion thread not a news blog aggregation site.
DougWantsALeaf said:Those with a Tesla, quick question?
Does Tesla keep reserve range below the gauge? Ex, when range says 1% or are you really at something higher to prevent stranding?
I often thought no that while Nissan has fewer roadside assistance calls, having a full 5 KW left when hitting 1% leads to people under representing the available range.
.webeleafowners said:DougWantsALeaf said:Those with a Tesla, quick question?
Does Tesla keep reserve range below the gauge? Ex, when range says 1% or are you really at something higher to prevent stranding?
I often thought no that while Nissan has fewer roadside assistance calls, having a full 5 KW left when hitting 1% leads to people under representing the available range.
Is that the case for a leaf? Is there’s full useable 5 percent left? That’s like 30 km. Really?
SageBrush said:.webeleafowners said:DougWantsALeaf said:Those with a Tesla, quick question?
Does Tesla keep reserve range below the gauge? Ex, when range says 1% or are you really at something higher to prevent stranding?
I often thought no that while Nissan has fewer roadside assistance calls, having a full 5 KW left when hitting 1% leads to people under representing the available range.
Is that the case for a leaf? Is there’s full useable 5 percent left? That’s like 30 km. Really?
Not for the LEAF, and not in a Tesla.
There is a battery reserve to prevent bricking but it is not user accessible.
.webeleafowners said:SageBrush said:.webeleafowners said:Is that the case for a leaf? Is there’s full useable 5 percent left? That’s like 30 km. Really?
Not for the LEAF, and not in a Tesla.
There is a battery reserve to prevent bricking but it is not user accessible.
Thanks.
SageBrush said:.webeleafowners said:SageBrush said:.
Not for the LEAF, and not in a Tesla.
There is a battery reserve to prevent bricking but it is not user accessible.
Thanks.
I forgot to mention --
The rumors of extra energy in a LEAF mostly come from a misunderstanding of LEAFspy. It reports total battery capacity while the car display of 0-100% is scaled to usable energy.
.webeleafowners said:SageBrush said:.webeleafowners said:Thanks.
I forgot to mention --
The rumors of extra energy in a LEAF mostly come from a misunderstanding of LEAFspy. It reports total battery capacity while the car display of 0-100% is scaled to usable energy.
Ok. So at 1 percent you are pretty much done. Funny thing. I’ve bet been below like 10 percent ish. Maybe 7?
SageBrush said:.webeleafowners said:SageBrush said:.
I forgot to mention --
The rumors of extra energy in a LEAF mostly come from a misunderstanding of LEAFspy. It reports total battery capacity while the car display of 0-100% is scaled to usable energy.
Ok. So at 1 percent you are pretty much done. Funny thing. I’ve bet been below like 10 percent ish. Maybe 7?
Pretty much, or higher if stomp on the go pedal.
I've gotten down to 12-15% once or twice in the LEAF, and down to 6% in our Tesla.
You mean kWh?DougWantsALeaf said:Those with a Tesla, quick question?
Does Tesla keep reserve range below the gauge? Ex, when range says 1% or are you really at something higher to prevent stranding?
I often thought no that while Nissan has fewer roadside assistance calls, having a full 5 KW left when hitting 1% leads to people under representing the available range.
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